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[FFmpeg-devel] JPEG2000 encoding with variable codeblock size

Message ID CAK8GPyB0S5WEhJ+NwgS=FVvpA1S5KWYQkkY6gKBh9Bzjs3u1sQ@mail.gmail.com
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Aaron Boxer Aug. 3, 2017, 5:24 p.m. UTC
On Aug 3, 2017 9:58 AM, <francesco@bltitalia.com> wrote:

From: Francesco Cuzzocrea <francesco@bltitalia.com>

Hi to all
I've made some simple changes tha allow encoding with variable codeblock
size.  Default value are the same as previous (16X16) but now setting them
to 64x128 make generated codestream compatible with Analog Devices ADV212
video codec.


Interesting - as far as I  aware, part 1 of standard only allows codeblock
of max size 4096, so 64x128 would not be legal.



---
 libavcodec/j2kenc.c | 22 +++++++++++++---------
 1 file changed, 13 insertions(+), 9 deletions(-)

"pred"        },
-
+    { "format",           "Codec Format",       OFFSET(format),
                   AV_OPT_TYPE_INT,   { .i64 = CODEC_JP2   }, CODEC_J2K,
CODEC_JP2,   VE, "format"      },
+    { "j2k",               NULL,                0,
                    AV_OPT_TYPE_CONST, { .i64 = CODEC_J2K   }, 0,
 0,           VE, "format"      },
+    { "jp2",               NULL,                0,
                    AV_OPT_TYPE_CONST, { .i64 = CODEC_JP2   }, 0,
 0,           VE, "format"      },
+    { "tile_width",        "Tile Width",        OFFSET(tile_width),
                   AV_OPT_TYPE_INT,   { .i64 = 256         }, 1,
 1<<30,           VE, },
+    { "tile_height",       "Tile Height",       OFFSET(tile_height),
                    AV_OPT_TYPE_INT,   { .i64 = 256         }, 1,
 1<<30,           VE, },
+    { "pred",              "DWT Type",          OFFSET(pred),
                   AV_OPT_TYPE_INT,   { .i64 = 0           }, 0,
 1,           VE, "pred"        },
+    { "dwt97int",          NULL,                0,
                    AV_OPT_TYPE_CONST, { .i64 = 0           }, INT_MIN,
INT_MAX,       VE, "pred"        },
+    { "dwt53",             NULL,                0,
                    AV_OPT_TYPE_CONST, { .i64 = 0           }, INT_MIN,
INT_MAX,       VE, "pred"        },
+    { "log2_cblk_width",   "Codeblock Width",
 (OFFSET(codsty)+OFFSET1(log2_cblk_width)),    AV_OPT_TYPE_INT,   { .i64 =
4           }, 1,     1<<30,           VE, },
+    { "log2_cblk_height",  "Codeblock Height",
(OFFSET(codsty)+OFFSET1(log2_cblk_height)),   AV_OPT_TYPE_INT,   { .i64 =
4           }, 1,     1<<30,           VE, },
     { NULL }
 };

--
2.1.4

Comments

francesco@bltitalia.com Aug. 4, 2017, 8:21 a.m. UTC | #1
The standard ISO/IEC FCD15444-1 specify limits for the exponent values 
and their sum. That is codeblock

size xcb and ycb are defined as:

xcb = 2^(xvalue+2)  and ycb = 2^(yvalue+2)

with values that ranges from a minimum of 2 and a maximum of 10. Moreover

the sum should be less or equal to 12 ( xvalue + yvalue <=12). So 64x128 
are allowed because

xvalue = 4 and yvalue = 5.



On 03/08/2017 19.24, Aaron Boxer wrote:
> On Aug 3, 2017 9:58 AM, <francesco@bltitalia.com> wrote:
>
> From: Francesco Cuzzocrea <francesco@bltitalia.com>
>
> Hi to all
> I've made some simple changes tha allow encoding with variable codeblock
> size.  Default value are the same as previous (16X16) but now setting them
> to 64x128 make generated codestream compatible with Analog Devices ADV212
> video codec.
>
>
> Interesting - as far as I  aware, part 1 of standard only allows codeblock
> of max size 4096, so 64x128 would not be legal.
>
>
>
> ---
>   libavcodec/j2kenc.c | 22 +++++++++++++---------
>   1 file changed, 13 insertions(+), 9 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/libavcodec/j2kenc.c b/libavcodec/j2kenc.c
> index c8d3861..1bd4fbd 100644
> --- a/libavcodec/j2kenc.c
> +++ b/libavcodec/j2kenc.c
> @@ -1178,17 +1178,21 @@ static int j2kenc_destroy(AVCodecContext *avctx)
>   // taken from the libopenjpeg wraper so it matches
>
>   #define OFFSET(x) offsetof(Jpeg2000EncoderContext, x)
> +#define OFFSET1(x) offsetof(Jpeg2000CodingStyle, x)
> +
> +
>   #define VE AV_OPT_FLAG_VIDEO_PARAM | AV_OPT_FLAG_ENCODING_PARAM
>   static const AVOption options[] = {
> -    { "format",        "Codec Format",      OFFSET(format),
> AV_OPT_TYPE_INT,   { .i64 = CODEC_JP2   }, CODEC_J2K, CODEC_JP2,   VE,
> "format"      },
> -    { "j2k",           NULL,                0,
>   AV_OPT_TYPE_CONST, { .i64 = CODEC_J2K   }, 0,         0,           VE,
> "format"      },
> -    { "jp2",           NULL,                0,
>   AV_OPT_TYPE_CONST, { .i64 = CODEC_JP2   }, 0,         0,           VE,
> "format"      },
> -    { "tile_width",    "Tile Width",        OFFSET(tile_width),
> AV_OPT_TYPE_INT,   { .i64 = 256         }, 1,     1<<30,           VE, },
> -    { "tile_height",   "Tile Height",       OFFSET(tile_height),
>   AV_OPT_TYPE_INT,   { .i64 = 256         }, 1,     1<<30,           VE, },
> -    { "pred",          "DWT Type",          OFFSET(pred),
> AV_OPT_TYPE_INT,   { .i64 = 0           }, 0,         1,           VE,
> "pred"        },
> -    { "dwt97int",      NULL,                0,
>   AV_OPT_TYPE_CONST, { .i64 = 0           }, INT_MIN, INT_MAX,       VE,
> "pred"        },
> -    { "dwt53",         NULL,                0,
>   AV_OPT_TYPE_CONST, { .i64 = 0           }, INT_MIN, INT_MAX,       VE,
> "pred"        },
> -
> +    { "format",           "Codec Format",       OFFSET(format),
>                     AV_OPT_TYPE_INT,   { .i64 = CODEC_JP2   }, CODEC_J2K,
> CODEC_JP2,   VE, "format"      },
> +    { "j2k",               NULL,                0,
>                      AV_OPT_TYPE_CONST, { .i64 = CODEC_J2K   }, 0,
>   0,           VE, "format"      },
> +    { "jp2",               NULL,                0,
>                      AV_OPT_TYPE_CONST, { .i64 = CODEC_JP2   }, 0,
>   0,           VE, "format"      },
> +    { "tile_width",        "Tile Width",        OFFSET(tile_width),
>                     AV_OPT_TYPE_INT,   { .i64 = 256         }, 1,
>   1<<30,           VE, },
> +    { "tile_height",       "Tile Height",       OFFSET(tile_height),
>                      AV_OPT_TYPE_INT,   { .i64 = 256         }, 1,
>   1<<30,           VE, },
> +    { "pred",              "DWT Type",          OFFSET(pred),
>                     AV_OPT_TYPE_INT,   { .i64 = 0           }, 0,
>   1,           VE, "pred"        },
> +    { "dwt97int",          NULL,                0,
>                      AV_OPT_TYPE_CONST, { .i64 = 0           }, INT_MIN,
> INT_MAX,       VE, "pred"        },
> +    { "dwt53",             NULL,                0,
>                      AV_OPT_TYPE_CONST, { .i64 = 0           }, INT_MIN,
> INT_MAX,       VE, "pred"        },
> +    { "log2_cblk_width",   "Codeblock Width",
>   (OFFSET(codsty)+OFFSET1(log2_cblk_width)),    AV_OPT_TYPE_INT,   { .i64 =
> 4           }, 1,     1<<30,           VE, },
> +    { "log2_cblk_height",  "Codeblock Height",
> (OFFSET(codsty)+OFFSET1(log2_cblk_height)),   AV_OPT_TYPE_INT,   { .i64 =
> 4           }, 1,     1<<30,           VE, },
>       { NULL }
>   };
>
> --
> 2.1.4
>
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francesco@bltitalia.com Aug. 4, 2017, 4:23 p.m. UTC | #2
Sorry..... I intend 32x128....


On 04/08/2017 10.21, Francesco, Cuzzocrea wrote:
> The standard ISO/IEC FCD15444-1 specify limits for the exponent values 
> and their sum. That is codeblock
>
> size xcb and ycb are defined as:
>
> xcb = 2^(xvalue+2)  and ycb = 2^(yvalue+2)
>
> with values that ranges from a minimum of 2 and a maximum of 10. Moreover
>
> the sum should be less or equal to 12 ( xvalue + yvalue <=12). So 
> 64x128 are allowed because
>
> xvalue = 4 and yvalue = 5.
>
>
>
> On 03/08/2017 19.24, Aaron Boxer wrote:
>> On Aug 3, 2017 9:58 AM, <francesco@bltitalia.com> wrote:
>>
>> From: Francesco Cuzzocrea <francesco@bltitalia.com>
>>
>> Hi to all
>> I've made some simple changes tha allow encoding with variable codeblock
>> size.  Default value are the same as previous (16X16) but now setting 
>> them
>> to 64x128 make generated codestream compatible with Analog Devices 
>> ADV212
>> video codec.
>>
>>
>> Interesting - as far as I  aware, part 1 of standard only allows 
>> codeblock
>> of max size 4096, so 64x128 would not be legal.
>>
>>
>>
>> ---
>>   libavcodec/j2kenc.c | 22 +++++++++++++---------
>>   1 file changed, 13 insertions(+), 9 deletions(-)
>>
>> diff --git a/libavcodec/j2kenc.c b/libavcodec/j2kenc.c
>> index c8d3861..1bd4fbd 100644
>> --- a/libavcodec/j2kenc.c
>> +++ b/libavcodec/j2kenc.c
>> @@ -1178,17 +1178,21 @@ static int j2kenc_destroy(AVCodecContext *avctx)
>>   // taken from the libopenjpeg wraper so it matches
>>
>>   #define OFFSET(x) offsetof(Jpeg2000EncoderContext, x)
>> +#define OFFSET1(x) offsetof(Jpeg2000CodingStyle, x)
>> +
>> +
>>   #define VE AV_OPT_FLAG_VIDEO_PARAM | AV_OPT_FLAG_ENCODING_PARAM
>>   static const AVOption options[] = {
>> -    { "format",        "Codec Format",      OFFSET(format),
>> AV_OPT_TYPE_INT,   { .i64 = CODEC_JP2   }, CODEC_J2K, CODEC_JP2,   VE,
>> "format"      },
>> -    { "j2k",           NULL,                0,
>>   AV_OPT_TYPE_CONST, { .i64 = CODEC_J2K   }, 0, 0,           VE,
>> "format"      },
>> -    { "jp2",           NULL,                0,
>>   AV_OPT_TYPE_CONST, { .i64 = CODEC_JP2   }, 0, 0,           VE,
>> "format"      },
>> -    { "tile_width",    "Tile Width",        OFFSET(tile_width),
>> AV_OPT_TYPE_INT,   { .i64 = 256         }, 1, 1<<30,           VE, },
>> -    { "tile_height",   "Tile Height", OFFSET(tile_height),
>>   AV_OPT_TYPE_INT,   { .i64 = 256         }, 1, 1<<30,           VE, },
>> -    { "pred",          "DWT Type",          OFFSET(pred),
>> AV_OPT_TYPE_INT,   { .i64 = 0           }, 0, 1,           VE,
>> "pred"        },
>> -    { "dwt97int",      NULL,                0,
>>   AV_OPT_TYPE_CONST, { .i64 = 0           }, INT_MIN, INT_MAX,       VE,
>> "pred"        },
>> -    { "dwt53",         NULL,                0,
>>   AV_OPT_TYPE_CONST, { .i64 = 0           }, INT_MIN, INT_MAX,       VE,
>> "pred"        },
>> -
>> +    { "format",           "Codec Format",       OFFSET(format),
>>                     AV_OPT_TYPE_INT,   { .i64 = CODEC_JP2   }, 
>> CODEC_J2K,
>> CODEC_JP2,   VE, "format"      },
>> +    { "j2k",               NULL,                0,
>>                      AV_OPT_TYPE_CONST, { .i64 = CODEC_J2K   }, 0,
>>   0,           VE, "format"      },
>> +    { "jp2",               NULL,                0,
>>                      AV_OPT_TYPE_CONST, { .i64 = CODEC_JP2   }, 0,
>>   0,           VE, "format"      },
>> +    { "tile_width",        "Tile Width", OFFSET(tile_width),
>>                     AV_OPT_TYPE_INT,   { .i64 = 256         }, 1,
>>   1<<30,           VE, },
>> +    { "tile_height",       "Tile Height", OFFSET(tile_height),
>>                      AV_OPT_TYPE_INT,   { .i64 = 256         }, 1,
>>   1<<30,           VE, },
>> +    { "pred",              "DWT Type",          OFFSET(pred),
>>                     AV_OPT_TYPE_INT,   { .i64 = 0           }, 0,
>>   1,           VE, "pred"        },
>> +    { "dwt97int",          NULL,                0,
>>                      AV_OPT_TYPE_CONST, { .i64 = 0           }, INT_MIN,
>> INT_MAX,       VE, "pred"        },
>> +    { "dwt53",             NULL,                0,
>>                      AV_OPT_TYPE_CONST, { .i64 = 0           }, INT_MIN,
>> INT_MAX,       VE, "pred"        },
>> +    { "log2_cblk_width",   "Codeblock Width",
>>   (OFFSET(codsty)+OFFSET1(log2_cblk_width)), AV_OPT_TYPE_INT,   { .i64 =
>> 4           }, 1,     1<<30,           VE, },
>> +    { "log2_cblk_height",  "Codeblock Height",
>> (OFFSET(codsty)+OFFSET1(log2_cblk_height)),   AV_OPT_TYPE_INT, { .i64 =
>> 4           }, 1,     1<<30,           VE, },
>>       { NULL }
>>   };
>>
>> -- 
>> 2.1.4
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> ffmpeg-devel mailing list
>> ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org
>> http://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel
>> _______________________________________________
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>
Aaron Boxer Aug. 4, 2017, 4:49 p.m. UTC | #3
On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 12:23 PM, Francesco, Cuzzocrea <
francesco@bltitalia.com> wrote:

> Sorry..... I intend 32x128....



OK, that sounds better :)




>
>
> On 04/08/2017 10.21, Francesco, Cuzzocrea wrote:
>
>> The standard ISO/IEC FCD15444-1 specify limits for the exponent values
>> and their sum. That is codeblock
>>
>> size xcb and ycb are defined as:
>>
>> xcb = 2^(xvalue+2)  and ycb = 2^(yvalue+2)
>>
>> with values that ranges from a minimum of 2 and a maximum of 10. Moreover
>>
>> the sum should be less or equal to 12 ( xvalue + yvalue <=12). So 64x128
>> are allowed because
>>
>> xvalue = 4 and yvalue = 5.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 03/08/2017 19.24, Aaron Boxer wrote:
>>
>>> On Aug 3, 2017 9:58 AM, <francesco@bltitalia.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> From: Francesco Cuzzocrea <francesco@bltitalia.com>
>>>
>>> Hi to all
>>> I've made some simple changes tha allow encoding with variable codeblock
>>> size.  Default value are the same as previous (16X16) but now setting
>>> them
>>> to 64x128 make generated codestream compatible with Analog Devices ADV212
>>> video codec.
>>>
>>>
>>> Interesting - as far as I  aware, part 1 of standard only allows
>>> codeblock
>>> of max size 4096, so 64x128 would not be legal.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ---
>>>   libavcodec/j2kenc.c | 22 +++++++++++++---------
>>>   1 file changed, 13 insertions(+), 9 deletions(-)
>>>
>>> diff --git a/libavcodec/j2kenc.c b/libavcodec/j2kenc.c
>>> index c8d3861..1bd4fbd 100644
>>> --- a/libavcodec/j2kenc.c
>>> +++ b/libavcodec/j2kenc.c
>>> @@ -1178,17 +1178,21 @@ static int j2kenc_destroy(AVCodecContext *avctx)
>>>   // taken from the libopenjpeg wraper so it matches
>>>
>>>   #define OFFSET(x) offsetof(Jpeg2000EncoderContext, x)
>>> +#define OFFSET1(x) offsetof(Jpeg2000CodingStyle, x)
>>> +
>>> +
>>>   #define VE AV_OPT_FLAG_VIDEO_PARAM | AV_OPT_FLAG_ENCODING_PARAM
>>>   static const AVOption options[] = {
>>> -    { "format",        "Codec Format",      OFFSET(format),
>>> AV_OPT_TYPE_INT,   { .i64 = CODEC_JP2   }, CODEC_J2K, CODEC_JP2,   VE,
>>> "format"      },
>>> -    { "j2k",           NULL,                0,
>>>   AV_OPT_TYPE_CONST, { .i64 = CODEC_J2K   }, 0, 0,           VE,
>>> "format"      },
>>> -    { "jp2",           NULL,                0,
>>>   AV_OPT_TYPE_CONST, { .i64 = CODEC_JP2   }, 0, 0,           VE,
>>> "format"      },
>>> -    { "tile_width",    "Tile Width",        OFFSET(tile_width),
>>> AV_OPT_TYPE_INT,   { .i64 = 256         }, 1, 1<<30,           VE, },
>>> -    { "tile_height",   "Tile Height", OFFSET(tile_height),
>>>   AV_OPT_TYPE_INT,   { .i64 = 256         }, 1, 1<<30,           VE, },
>>> -    { "pred",          "DWT Type",          OFFSET(pred),
>>> AV_OPT_TYPE_INT,   { .i64 = 0           }, 0, 1,           VE,
>>> "pred"        },
>>> -    { "dwt97int",      NULL,                0,
>>>   AV_OPT_TYPE_CONST, { .i64 = 0           }, INT_MIN, INT_MAX,       VE,
>>> "pred"        },
>>> -    { "dwt53",         NULL,                0,
>>>   AV_OPT_TYPE_CONST, { .i64 = 0           }, INT_MIN, INT_MAX,       VE,
>>> "pred"        },
>>> -
>>> +    { "format",           "Codec Format",       OFFSET(format),
>>>                     AV_OPT_TYPE_INT,   { .i64 = CODEC_JP2   }, CODEC_J2K,
>>> CODEC_JP2,   VE, "format"      },
>>> +    { "j2k",               NULL,                0,
>>>                      AV_OPT_TYPE_CONST, { .i64 = CODEC_J2K   }, 0,
>>>   0,           VE, "format"      },
>>> +    { "jp2",               NULL,                0,
>>>                      AV_OPT_TYPE_CONST, { .i64 = CODEC_JP2   }, 0,
>>>   0,           VE, "format"      },
>>> +    { "tile_width",        "Tile Width", OFFSET(tile_width),
>>>                     AV_OPT_TYPE_INT,   { .i64 = 256         }, 1,
>>>   1<<30,           VE, },
>>> +    { "tile_height",       "Tile Height", OFFSET(tile_height),
>>>                      AV_OPT_TYPE_INT,   { .i64 = 256         }, 1,
>>>   1<<30,           VE, },
>>> +    { "pred",              "DWT Type",          OFFSET(pred),
>>>                     AV_OPT_TYPE_INT,   { .i64 = 0           }, 0,
>>>   1,           VE, "pred"        },
>>> +    { "dwt97int",          NULL,                0,
>>>                      AV_OPT_TYPE_CONST, { .i64 = 0           }, INT_MIN,
>>> INT_MAX,       VE, "pred"        },
>>> +    { "dwt53",             NULL,                0,
>>>                      AV_OPT_TYPE_CONST, { .i64 = 0           }, INT_MIN,
>>> INT_MAX,       VE, "pred"        },
>>> +    { "log2_cblk_width",   "Codeblock Width",
>>>   (OFFSET(codsty)+OFFSET1(log2_cblk_width)), AV_OPT_TYPE_INT,   { .i64 =
>>> 4           }, 1,     1<<30,           VE, },
>>> +    { "log2_cblk_height",  "Codeblock Height",
>>> (OFFSET(codsty)+OFFSET1(log2_cblk_height)),   AV_OPT_TYPE_INT, { .i64 =
>>> 4           }, 1,     1<<30,           VE, },
>>>       { NULL }
>>>   };
>>>
>>> --
>>> 2.1.4
>>>
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>>> ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org
>>> http://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel
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>>> http://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel
>>>
>>
>>
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Patch

diff --git a/libavcodec/j2kenc.c b/libavcodec/j2kenc.c
index c8d3861..1bd4fbd 100644
--- a/libavcodec/j2kenc.c
+++ b/libavcodec/j2kenc.c
@@ -1178,17 +1178,21 @@  static int j2kenc_destroy(AVCodecContext *avctx)
 // taken from the libopenjpeg wraper so it matches

 #define OFFSET(x) offsetof(Jpeg2000EncoderContext, x)
+#define OFFSET1(x) offsetof(Jpeg2000CodingStyle, x)
+
+
 #define VE AV_OPT_FLAG_VIDEO_PARAM | AV_OPT_FLAG_ENCODING_PARAM
 static const AVOption options[] = {
-    { "format",        "Codec Format",      OFFSET(format),
AV_OPT_TYPE_INT,   { .i64 = CODEC_JP2   }, CODEC_J2K, CODEC_JP2,   VE,
"format"      },
-    { "j2k",           NULL,                0,
 AV_OPT_TYPE_CONST, { .i64 = CODEC_J2K   }, 0,         0,           VE,
"format"      },
-    { "jp2",           NULL,                0,
 AV_OPT_TYPE_CONST, { .i64 = CODEC_JP2   }, 0,         0,           VE,
"format"      },
-    { "tile_width",    "Tile Width",        OFFSET(tile_width),
AV_OPT_TYPE_INT,   { .i64 = 256         }, 1,     1<<30,           VE, },
-    { "tile_height",   "Tile Height",       OFFSET(tile_height),
 AV_OPT_TYPE_INT,   { .i64 = 256         }, 1,     1<<30,           VE, },
-    { "pred",          "DWT Type",          OFFSET(pred),
AV_OPT_TYPE_INT,   { .i64 = 0           }, 0,         1,           VE,
"pred"        },
-    { "dwt97int",      NULL,                0,
 AV_OPT_TYPE_CONST, { .i64 = 0           }, INT_MIN, INT_MAX,       VE,
"pred"        },
-    { "dwt53",         NULL,                0,
 AV_OPT_TYPE_CONST, { .i64 = 0           }, INT_MIN, INT_MAX,       VE,