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[FFmpeg-devel,6/6] lavu/frame: deprecate AVFrame.pkt_{pos, size}

Message ID 20230310115635.13639-6-anton@khirnov.net
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Series [FFmpeg-devel,1/6] lavc/decode: stop mangling last_pkt_props->opaque | expand

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Anton Khirnov March 10, 2023, 11:56 a.m. UTC
These fields are supposed to store information about the packet the
frame was decoded from, specifically the byte offset it was stored at
and its size.

However,
- the fields are highly ad-hoc - there is no strong reason why
  specifically those (and not any other) packet properties should have a
  dedicated field in AVFrame; unlike e.g. the timestamps, there is no
  fundamental link between coded packet offset/size and decoded frames
- they only make sense for frames produced by decoding demuxed packets,
  and even then it is not always the case that the encoded data was
  stored in the file as a contiguous sequence of bytes (in order for pos
  to be well-defined)
- pkt_pos was added without much explanation, apparently to allow
  passthrough of this information through lavfi in order to handle byte
  seeking in ffplay. That is now implemented using arbitrary user data
  passthrough in AVFrame.opaque_ref.
- several filters use pkt_pos as a variable available to user-supplied
  expressions, but there seems to be no established motivation for using them.
- pkt_size was added for use in ffprobe, but that too is now handled
  without using this field. Additonally, the values of this field
  produced by libavcodec are flawed, as described in the previous
  ffprobe conversion commit.

In summary - these fields are ill-defined and insufficiently motivated,
so deprecate them.
---
 doc/filters.texi              | 35 ++++++++++++------------
 libavcodec/av1dec.c           |  4 +++
 libavcodec/crystalhd.c        |  6 ++++-
 libavcodec/cuviddec.c         |  6 ++++-
 libavcodec/decode.c           | 14 +++++++++-
 libavcodec/libuavs3d.c        |  8 ++++++
 libavdevice/lavfi.c           |  8 ++++++
 libavfilter/af_ashowinfo.c    |  3 +--
 libavfilter/af_volume.c       | 16 ++++++++---
 libavfilter/asrc_flite.c      |  4 +++
 libavfilter/avfilter.c        |  8 ++++++
 libavfilter/f_select.c        |  6 +++++
 libavfilter/f_sendcmd.c       |  8 ++++++
 libavfilter/setpts.c          | 16 +++++++----
 libavfilter/vf_crop.c         | 14 ++++++++--
 libavfilter/vf_drawtext.c     | 14 +++++++++-
 libavfilter/vf_eq.c           | 10 +++++--
 libavfilter/vf_eq.h           |  4 +++
 libavfilter/vf_overlay.c      | 18 ++++++++++---
 libavfilter/vf_overlay.h      |  2 ++
 libavfilter/vf_overlay_cuda.c | 24 ++++++++++++-----
 libavfilter/vf_scale.c        | 30 +++++++++++++++++++--
 libavfilter/vf_scale_npp.c    | 51 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++------
 libavfilter/vf_showinfo.c     |  3 +--
 libavfilter/vf_swaprect.c     | 16 +++++++++--
 libavutil/frame.c             |  8 ++++++
 libavutil/frame.h             | 10 +++++++
 libavutil/version.h           |  1 +
 28 files changed, 287 insertions(+), 60 deletions(-)

Comments

James Almer March 10, 2023, 12:18 p.m. UTC | #1
On 3/10/2023 8:56 AM, Anton Khirnov wrote:
> diff --git a/libavcodec/decode.c b/libavcodec/decode.c
> index d1ba7f167f..ed937a3055 100644
> --- a/libavcodec/decode.c
> +++ b/libavcodec/decode.c
> @@ -287,8 +287,12 @@ static inline int decode_simple_internal(AVCodecContext *avctx, AVFrame *frame,
>           if (!(codec->caps_internal & FF_CODEC_CAP_SETS_PKT_DTS))
>               frame->pkt_dts = pkt->dts;
>           if (avctx->codec->type == AVMEDIA_TYPE_VIDEO) {
> +#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
> +FF_DISABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
>               if(!avctx->has_b_frames)
>                   frame->pkt_pos = pkt->pos;
> +FF_ENABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
> +#endif
>               //FIXME these should be under if(!avctx->has_b_frames)
>               /* get_buffer is supposed to set frame parameters */
>               if (!(avctx->codec->capabilities & AV_CODEC_CAP_DR1)) {
> @@ -1312,9 +1316,13 @@ int ff_decode_frame_props_from_pkt(const AVCodecContext *avctx,
>       };
>   
>       frame->pts          = pkt->pts;
> -    frame->pkt_pos      = pkt->pos;
>       frame->duration     = pkt->duration;
> +#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
> +FF_DISABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
> +    frame->pkt_pos      = pkt->pos;
>       frame->pkt_size     = pkt->size;
> +FF_ENABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
> +#endif
>   
>       for (int i = 0; i < FF_ARRAY_ELEMS(sd); i++) {
>           size_t size;
> @@ -1355,7 +1363,11 @@ int ff_decode_frame_props(AVCodecContext *avctx, AVFrame *frame)
>           int ret = ff_decode_frame_props_from_pkt(avctx, frame, pkt);
>           if (ret < 0)
>               return ret;
> +#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
> +FF_DISABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
>           frame->pkt_size = pkt->stream_index;

The only remaining use of last_pkt_props->stream_index is in 
decode_simple_internal() where it subtracts the amount of bytes consumed 
from it, so maybe it should be wrapped too?

> +FF_ENABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
> +#endif
>       }
>   #if FF_API_REORDERED_OPAQUE
>   FF_DISABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
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Patch

diff --git a/doc/filters.texi b/doc/filters.texi
index 7a7b2ba4e7..a4591d1bed 100644
--- a/doc/filters.texi
+++ b/doc/filters.texi
@@ -299,7 +299,8 @@  timestamp expressed in seconds, NAN if the input timestamp is unknown
 sequential number of the input frame, starting from 0
 
 @item pos
-the position in the file of the input frame, NAN if unknown
+the position in the file of the input frame, NAN if unknown; deprecated, do
+not use
 
 @item w
 @item h
@@ -3005,10 +3006,6 @@  depends on the filter input pad, and is usually 1/@var{sample_rate}.
 @item pts_time
 The presentation timestamp of the input frame in seconds.
 
-@item pos
-position of the frame in the input stream, -1 if this information in
-unavailable and/or meaningless (for example in case of synthetic audio)
-
 @item fmt
 The sample format.
 
@@ -7306,7 +7303,7 @@  number of samples consumed by the filter
 @item nb_samples
 number of samples in the current frame
 @item pos
-original frame position in the file
+original frame position in the file; deprecated, do not use
 @item pts
 frame PTS
 @item sample_rate
@@ -10428,7 +10425,8 @@  pixel format "yuv422p" @var{hsub} is 2 and @var{vsub} is 1.
 The number of the input frame, starting from 0.
 
 @item pos
-the position in the file of the input frame, NAN if unknown
+the position in the file of the input frame, NAN if unknown; deprecated,
+do not use
 
 @item t
 The timestamp expressed in seconds. It's NAN if the input timestamp is unknown.
@@ -12772,7 +12770,7 @@  frame count of the input frame starting from 0
 
 @item pos
 byte position of the corresponding packet in the input file, NAN if
-unspecified
+unspecified; deprecated, do not use
 
 @item r
 frame rate of the input video, NAN if the input frame rate is unknown
@@ -18151,7 +18149,8 @@  format. For example for the pixel format "yuv422p" @var{hsub} is 2 and
 the number of input frame, starting from 0
 
 @item pos
-the position in the file of the input frame, NAN if unknown
+the position in the file of the input frame, NAN if unknown; deprecated,
+do not use
 
 @item t
 The timestamp, expressed in seconds. It's NAN if the input timestamp is unknown.
@@ -18160,7 +18159,7 @@  The timestamp, expressed in seconds. It's NAN if the input timestamp is unknown.
 
 This filter also supports the @ref{framesync} options.
 
-Note that the @var{n}, @var{pos}, @var{t} variables are available only
+Note that the @var{n}, @var{t} variables are available only
 when evaluation is done @emph{per frame}, and will evaluate to NAN
 when @option{eval} is set to @samp{init}.
 
@@ -18315,6 +18314,7 @@  The ordinal index of the main input frame, starting from 0.
 
 @item pos
 The byte offset position in the file of the main input frame, NAN if unknown.
+Deprecated, do not use.
 
 @item t
 The timestamp of the main input frame, expressed in seconds, NAN if unknown.
@@ -20199,6 +20199,7 @@  seconds. Only available with @code{eval=frame}.
 The position (byte offset) of the frame in the input stream, or NaN if
 this information is unavailable and/or meaningless (for example in case of synthetic video).
 Only available with @code{eval=frame}.
+Deprecated, do not use.
 @end table
 
 @subsection Examples
@@ -20531,6 +20532,7 @@  seconds. Only available with @code{eval=frame}.
 The position (byte offset) of the frame in the input stream, or NaN if
 this information is unavailable and/or meaningless (for example in case of synthetic video).
 Only available with @code{eval=frame}.
+Deprecated, do not use.
 @end table
 
 @section scale2ref
@@ -21154,10 +21156,6 @@  time base units. The time base unit depends on the filter input pad.
 The Presentation TimeStamp of the input frame, expressed as a number of
 seconds.
 
-@item pos
-The position of the frame in the input stream, or -1 if this information is
-unavailable and/or meaningless (for example in case of synthetic video).
-
 @item fmt
 The pixel format name.
 
@@ -22238,7 +22236,8 @@  The number of the input frame, starting from 0.
 The timestamp expressed in seconds. It's NAN if the input timestamp is unknown.
 
 @item pos
-the position in the file of the input frame, NAN if unknown
+the position in the file of the input frame, NAN if unknown; deprecated,
+do not use
 @end table
 
 @subsection Commands
@@ -28910,7 +28909,7 @@  This is 1 if the filtered frame is a key-frame, 0 otherwise.
 
 @item pos
 the position in the file of the filtered frame, -1 if the information
-is not available (e.g. for synthetic video)
+is not available (e.g. for synthetic video); deprecated, do not use
 
 @item scene @emph{(video only)}
 value between 0 and 1 to indicate a new scene; a low value reflects a low
@@ -29100,7 +29099,7 @@  constants:
 @table @option
 @item POS
 Original position in the file of the frame, or undefined if undefined
-for the current frame.
+for the current frame. Deprecated, do not use.
 
 @item PTS
 The presentation timestamp in input.
@@ -29248,7 +29247,7 @@  the time in seconds of the current frame
 
 @item POS
 original position in the file of the frame, or undefined if undefined
-for the current frame
+for the current frame; deprecated, do not use
 
 @item PREV_INPTS
 The previous input PTS.
diff --git a/libavcodec/av1dec.c b/libavcodec/av1dec.c
index d83c902f1f..e4029f8ef3 100644
--- a/libavcodec/av1dec.c
+++ b/libavcodec/av1dec.c
@@ -938,7 +938,11 @@  static int set_output_frame(AVCodecContext *avctx, AVFrame *frame,
 
     frame->pts = pkt->pts;
     frame->pkt_dts = pkt->dts;
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
+FF_DISABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
     frame->pkt_size = pkt->size;
+FF_ENABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
+#endif
 
     *got_frame = 1;
 
diff --git a/libavcodec/crystalhd.c b/libavcodec/crystalhd.c
index 688cdffbcb..a48d60f123 100644
--- a/libavcodec/crystalhd.c
+++ b/libavcodec/crystalhd.c
@@ -549,9 +549,13 @@  static inline CopyRet copy_frame(AVCodecContext *avctx,
 
     frame->pts = pkt_pts;
 
-    frame->pkt_pos = -1;
     frame->duration = 0;
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
+FF_DISABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
+    frame->pkt_pos = -1;
     frame->pkt_size = -1;
+FF_ENABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
+#endif
 
     if (!priv->need_second_field) {
         *got_frame       = 1;
diff --git a/libavcodec/cuviddec.c b/libavcodec/cuviddec.c
index 4ba7918b64..76e70aa648 100644
--- a/libavcodec/cuviddec.c
+++ b/libavcodec/cuviddec.c
@@ -623,9 +623,13 @@  static int cuvid_output_frame(AVCodecContext *avctx, AVFrame *frame)
         /* CUVIDs opaque reordering breaks the internal pkt logic.
          * So set pkt_pts and clear all the other pkt_ fields.
          */
-        frame->pkt_pos = -1;
         frame->duration = 0;
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
+FF_DISABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
+        frame->pkt_pos = -1;
         frame->pkt_size = -1;
+FF_ENABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
+#endif
 
         frame->interlaced_frame = !parsed_frame.is_deinterlacing && !parsed_frame.dispinfo.progressive_frame;
 
diff --git a/libavcodec/decode.c b/libavcodec/decode.c
index d1ba7f167f..ed937a3055 100644
--- a/libavcodec/decode.c
+++ b/libavcodec/decode.c
@@ -287,8 +287,12 @@  static inline int decode_simple_internal(AVCodecContext *avctx, AVFrame *frame,
         if (!(codec->caps_internal & FF_CODEC_CAP_SETS_PKT_DTS))
             frame->pkt_dts = pkt->dts;
         if (avctx->codec->type == AVMEDIA_TYPE_VIDEO) {
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
+FF_DISABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
             if(!avctx->has_b_frames)
                 frame->pkt_pos = pkt->pos;
+FF_ENABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
+#endif
             //FIXME these should be under if(!avctx->has_b_frames)
             /* get_buffer is supposed to set frame parameters */
             if (!(avctx->codec->capabilities & AV_CODEC_CAP_DR1)) {
@@ -1312,9 +1316,13 @@  int ff_decode_frame_props_from_pkt(const AVCodecContext *avctx,
     };
 
     frame->pts          = pkt->pts;
-    frame->pkt_pos      = pkt->pos;
     frame->duration     = pkt->duration;
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
+FF_DISABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
+    frame->pkt_pos      = pkt->pos;
     frame->pkt_size     = pkt->size;
+FF_ENABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
+#endif
 
     for (int i = 0; i < FF_ARRAY_ELEMS(sd); i++) {
         size_t size;
@@ -1355,7 +1363,11 @@  int ff_decode_frame_props(AVCodecContext *avctx, AVFrame *frame)
         int ret = ff_decode_frame_props_from_pkt(avctx, frame, pkt);
         if (ret < 0)
             return ret;
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
+FF_DISABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
         frame->pkt_size = pkt->stream_index;
+FF_ENABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
+#endif
     }
 #if FF_API_REORDERED_OPAQUE
 FF_DISABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
diff --git a/libavcodec/libuavs3d.c b/libavcodec/libuavs3d.c
index b1ccb151e6..5c08d2b8d3 100644
--- a/libavcodec/libuavs3d.c
+++ b/libavcodec/libuavs3d.c
@@ -79,8 +79,12 @@  static void uavs3d_output_callback(uavs3d_io_frm_t *dec_frame) {
 
     frm->pts       = dec_frame->pts;
     frm->pkt_dts   = dec_frame->dts;
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
+FF_DISABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
     frm->pkt_pos   = dec_frame->pkt_pos;
     frm->pkt_size  = dec_frame->pkt_size;
+FF_ENABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
+#endif
 #if FF_API_FRAME_PICTURE_NUMBER
 FF_DISABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
     frm->coded_picture_number   = dec_frame->dtr;
@@ -175,8 +179,12 @@  static int libuavs3d_decode_frame(AVCodecContext *avctx, AVFrame *frm,
         uavs3d_io_frm_t *frm_dec = &h->dec_frame;
 
         buf_end = buf + buf_size;
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
+FF_DISABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
         frm_dec->pkt_pos  = avpkt->pos;
         frm_dec->pkt_size = avpkt->size;
+FF_ENABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
+#endif
 
         while (!finish) {
             int bs_len;
diff --git a/libavdevice/lavfi.c b/libavdevice/lavfi.c
index 246f7dff3b..9c1fcf334b 100644
--- a/libavdevice/lavfi.c
+++ b/libavdevice/lavfi.c
@@ -343,7 +343,11 @@  static int create_subcc_packet(AVFormatContext *avctx, AVFrame *frame,
     memcpy(lavfi->subcc_packet.data, sd->data, sd->size);
     lavfi->subcc_packet.stream_index = stream_idx;
     lavfi->subcc_packet.pts = frame->pts;
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
+FF_DISABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
     lavfi->subcc_packet.pos = frame->pkt_pos;
+FF_ENABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
+#endif
     return 0;
 }
 
@@ -450,7 +454,11 @@  static int lavfi_read_packet(AVFormatContext *avctx, AVPacket *pkt)
 
     pkt->stream_index = stream_idx;
     pkt->pts = frame->pts;
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
+FF_DISABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
     pkt->pos = frame->pkt_pos;
+FF_ENABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
+#endif
 
     if (st->codecpar->codec_type != AVMEDIA_TYPE_VIDEO)
         av_frame_free(&frame);
diff --git a/libavfilter/af_ashowinfo.c b/libavfilter/af_ashowinfo.c
index 36ba38b478..20900369d0 100644
--- a/libavfilter/af_ashowinfo.c
+++ b/libavfilter/af_ashowinfo.c
@@ -213,12 +213,11 @@  FF_ENABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
     av_channel_layout_describe(&buf->ch_layout, chlayout_str, sizeof(chlayout_str));
 
     av_log(ctx, AV_LOG_INFO,
-           "n:%"PRId64" pts:%s pts_time:%s pos:%"PRId64" "
+           "n:%"PRId64" pts:%s pts_time:%s "
            "fmt:%s channels:%d chlayout:%s rate:%d nb_samples:%d "
            "checksum:%08"PRIX32" ",
            inlink->frame_count_out,
            av_ts2str(buf->pts), av_ts2timestr(buf->pts, &inlink->time_base),
-           buf->pkt_pos,
            av_get_sample_fmt_name(buf->format), buf->ch_layout.nb_channels, chlayout_str,
            buf->sample_rate, buf->nb_samples,
            checksum);
diff --git a/libavfilter/af_volume.c b/libavfilter/af_volume.c
index f6e183df8d..926529947c 100644
--- a/libavfilter/af_volume.c
+++ b/libavfilter/af_volume.c
@@ -48,7 +48,9 @@  static const char *const var_names[] = {
     "nb_channels",         ///< number of channels
     "nb_consumed_samples", ///< number of samples consumed by the filter
     "nb_samples",          ///< number of samples in the current frame
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
     "pos",                 ///< position in the file of the frame
+#endif
     "pts",                 ///< frame presentation timestamp
     "sample_rate",         ///< sample rate
     "startpts",            ///< PTS at start of stream
@@ -288,7 +290,9 @@  static int config_output(AVFilterLink *outlink)
     vol->var_values[VAR_N] =
     vol->var_values[VAR_NB_CONSUMED_SAMPLES] =
     vol->var_values[VAR_NB_SAMPLES] =
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
     vol->var_values[VAR_POS] =
+#endif
     vol->var_values[VAR_PTS] =
     vol->var_values[VAR_STARTPTS] =
     vol->var_values[VAR_STARTT] =
@@ -330,7 +334,6 @@  static int filter_frame(AVFilterLink *inlink, AVFrame *buf)
     AVFilterLink *outlink = inlink->dst->outputs[0];
     int nb_samples        = buf->nb_samples;
     AVFrame *out_buf;
-    int64_t pos;
     AVFrameSideData *sd = av_frame_get_side_data(buf, AV_FRAME_DATA_REPLAYGAIN);
     int ret;
 
@@ -380,8 +383,15 @@  static int filter_frame(AVFilterLink *inlink, AVFrame *buf)
     vol->var_values[VAR_T  ] = TS2T(buf->pts, inlink->time_base);
     vol->var_values[VAR_N  ] = inlink->frame_count_out;
 
-    pos = buf->pkt_pos;
-    vol->var_values[VAR_POS] = pos == -1 ? NAN : pos;
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
+FF_DISABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
+    {
+        int64_t pos;
+        pos = buf->pkt_pos;
+        vol->var_values[VAR_POS] = pos == -1 ? NAN : pos;
+    }
+FF_ENABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
+#endif
     if (vol->eval_mode == EVAL_MODE_FRAME)
         set_volume(ctx);
 
diff --git a/libavfilter/asrc_flite.c b/libavfilter/asrc_flite.c
index 5fab8086ba..1c3053aa39 100644
--- a/libavfilter/asrc_flite.c
+++ b/libavfilter/asrc_flite.c
@@ -272,7 +272,11 @@  static int request_frame(AVFilterLink *outlink)
     memcpy(samplesref->data[0], flite->wave_samples,
            nb_samples * flite->wave->num_channels * 2);
     samplesref->pts = flite->pts;
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
+FF_DISABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
     samplesref->pkt_pos = -1;
+FF_ENABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
+#endif
     samplesref->sample_rate = flite->wave->sample_rate;
     flite->pts += nb_samples;
     flite->wave_samples += nb_samples * flite->wave->num_channels;
diff --git a/libavfilter/avfilter.c b/libavfilter/avfilter.c
index ec83b691bf..8d5702a0c8 100644
--- a/libavfilter/avfilter.c
+++ b/libavfilter/avfilter.c
@@ -487,7 +487,9 @@  static const char *const var_names[] = {
 enum {
     VAR_T,
     VAR_N,
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
     VAR_POS,
+#endif
     VAR_W,
     VAR_H,
     VAR_VARS_NB
@@ -1464,7 +1466,11 @@  int ff_inlink_evaluate_timeline_at_frame(AVFilterLink *link, const AVFrame *fram
 {
     AVFilterContext *dstctx = link->dst;
     int64_t pts = frame->pts;
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
+FF_DISABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
     int64_t pos = frame->pkt_pos;
+FF_ENABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
+#endif
 
     if (!dstctx->enable_str)
         return 1;
@@ -1473,7 +1479,9 @@  int ff_inlink_evaluate_timeline_at_frame(AVFilterLink *link, const AVFrame *fram
     dstctx->var_values[VAR_T] = pts == AV_NOPTS_VALUE ? NAN : pts * av_q2d(link->time_base);
     dstctx->var_values[VAR_W] = link->w;
     dstctx->var_values[VAR_H] = link->h;
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
     dstctx->var_values[VAR_POS] = pos == -1 ? NAN : pos;
+#endif
 
     return fabs(av_expr_eval(dstctx->enable, dstctx->var_values, NULL)) >= 0.5;
 }
diff --git a/libavfilter/f_select.c b/libavfilter/f_select.c
index 1cfe2d59e5..d76c248fc5 100644
--- a/libavfilter/f_select.c
+++ b/libavfilter/f_select.c
@@ -134,7 +134,9 @@  enum var_name {
     VAR_PREV_SELECTED_N,
 
     VAR_KEY,
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
     VAR_POS,
+#endif
 
     VAR_SCENE,
 
@@ -339,7 +341,11 @@  static void select_frame(AVFilterContext *ctx, AVFrame *frame)
     select->var_values[VAR_N  ] = inlink->frame_count_out;
     select->var_values[VAR_PTS] = TS2D(frame->pts);
     select->var_values[VAR_T  ] = TS2D(frame->pts) * av_q2d(inlink->time_base);
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
+FF_DISABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
     select->var_values[VAR_POS] = frame->pkt_pos == -1 ? NAN : frame->pkt_pos;
+FF_ENABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
+#endif
     select->var_values[VAR_KEY] = frame->key_frame;
     select->var_values[VAR_CONCATDEC_SELECT] = get_concatdec_select(frame, av_rescale_q(frame->pts, inlink->time_base, AV_TIME_BASE_Q));
 
diff --git a/libavfilter/f_sendcmd.c b/libavfilter/f_sendcmd.c
index 857b841313..eb49f8baba 100644
--- a/libavfilter/f_sendcmd.c
+++ b/libavfilter/f_sendcmd.c
@@ -43,7 +43,9 @@ 
 static const char *const var_names[] = {
     "N",     /* frame number */
     "T",     /* frame time in seconds */
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
     "POS",   /* original position in the file of the frame */
+#endif
     "PTS",   /* frame pts */
     "TS",    /* interval start time in seconds */
     "TE",    /* interval end time in seconds */
@@ -56,7 +58,9 @@  static const char *const var_names[] = {
 enum var_name {
     VAR_N,
     VAR_T,
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
     VAR_POS,
+#endif
     VAR_PTS,
     VAR_TS,
     VAR_TE,
@@ -531,7 +535,11 @@  static int filter_frame(AVFilterLink *inlink, AVFrame *ref)
                         double current = TS2T(ref->pts, inlink->time_base);
 
                         var_values[VAR_N]   = inlink->frame_count_in;
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
+FF_DISABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
                         var_values[VAR_POS] = ref->pkt_pos == -1 ? NAN : ref->pkt_pos;
+FF_ENABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
+#endif
                         var_values[VAR_PTS] = TS2D(ref->pts);
                         var_values[VAR_T]   = current;
                         var_values[VAR_TS]  = start;
diff --git a/libavfilter/setpts.c b/libavfilter/setpts.c
index 171fae88c0..5bcc0c2dcf 100644
--- a/libavfilter/setpts.c
+++ b/libavfilter/setpts.c
@@ -45,7 +45,9 @@  static const char *const var_names[] = {
     "N",           ///< frame / sample number (starting at zero)
     "NB_CONSUMED_SAMPLES", ///< number of samples consumed by the filter (only audio)
     "NB_SAMPLES",  ///< number of samples in the current frame (only audio)
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
     "POS",         ///< original position in the file of the frame
+#endif
     "PREV_INPTS",  ///< previous  input PTS
     "PREV_INT",    ///< previous  input time in seconds
     "PREV_OUTPTS", ///< previous output PTS
@@ -70,7 +72,9 @@  enum var_name {
     VAR_N,
     VAR_NB_CONSUMED_SAMPLES,
     VAR_NB_SAMPLES,
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
     VAR_POS,
+#endif
     VAR_PREV_INPTS,
     VAR_PREV_INT,
     VAR_PREV_OUTPTS,
@@ -161,7 +165,11 @@  static double eval_pts(SetPTSContext *setpts, AVFilterLink *inlink, AVFrame *fra
     }
     setpts->var_values[VAR_PTS       ] = TS2D(pts);
     setpts->var_values[VAR_T         ] = TS2T(pts, inlink->time_base);
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
+FF_DISABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
     setpts->var_values[VAR_POS       ] = !frame || frame->pkt_pos == -1 ? NAN : frame->pkt_pos;
+FF_ENABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
+#endif
     setpts->var_values[VAR_RTCTIME   ] = av_gettime();
 
     if (frame) {
@@ -187,11 +195,10 @@  static int filter_frame(AVFilterLink *inlink, AVFrame *frame)
     frame->pts = D2TS(d);
 
     av_log(inlink->dst, AV_LOG_TRACE,
-            "N:%"PRId64" PTS:%s T:%f POS:%s",
+            "N:%"PRId64" PTS:%s T:%f",
             (int64_t)setpts->var_values[VAR_N],
             d2istr(setpts->var_values[VAR_PTS]),
-            setpts->var_values[VAR_T],
-            d2istr(setpts->var_values[VAR_POS]));
+            setpts->var_values[VAR_T]);
     switch (inlink->type) {
     case AVMEDIA_TYPE_VIDEO:
         av_log(inlink->dst, AV_LOG_TRACE, " INTERLACED:%"PRId64,
@@ -242,10 +249,9 @@  static int activate(AVFilterContext *ctx)
     if (ff_inlink_acknowledge_status(inlink, &status, &pts)) {
         double d = eval_pts(setpts, inlink, NULL, pts);
 
-        av_log(ctx, AV_LOG_TRACE, "N:EOF PTS:%s T:%f POS:%s -> PTS:%s T:%f\n",
+        av_log(ctx, AV_LOG_TRACE, "N:EOF PTS:%s T:%f -> PTS:%s T:%f\n",
                d2istr(setpts->var_values[VAR_PTS]),
                setpts->var_values[VAR_T],
-               d2istr(setpts->var_values[VAR_POS]),
                d2istr(d), TS2T(d, inlink->time_base));
         ff_outlink_set_status(outlink, status, D2TS(d));
         return 0;
diff --git a/libavfilter/vf_crop.c b/libavfilter/vf_crop.c
index c7cbfa51ef..6361209941 100644
--- a/libavfilter/vf_crop.c
+++ b/libavfilter/vf_crop.c
@@ -50,7 +50,9 @@  static const char *const var_names[] = {
     "x",
     "y",
     "n",            ///< number of frame
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
     "pos",          ///< position in the file
+#endif
     "t",            ///< timestamp expressed in seconds
     NULL
 };
@@ -68,7 +70,9 @@  enum var_name {
     VAR_X,
     VAR_Y,
     VAR_N,
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
     VAR_POS,
+#endif
     VAR_T,
     VAR_VARS_NB
 };
@@ -145,7 +149,9 @@  static int config_input(AVFilterLink *link)
     s->var_values[VAR_OUT_H] = s->var_values[VAR_OH] = NAN;
     s->var_values[VAR_N]     = 0;
     s->var_values[VAR_T]     = NAN;
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
     s->var_values[VAR_POS]   = NAN;
+#endif
 
     av_image_fill_max_pixsteps(s->max_step, NULL, pix_desc);
 
@@ -257,8 +263,12 @@  static int filter_frame(AVFilterLink *link, AVFrame *frame)
     s->var_values[VAR_N] = link->frame_count_out;
     s->var_values[VAR_T] = frame->pts == AV_NOPTS_VALUE ?
         NAN : frame->pts * av_q2d(link->time_base);
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
+FF_DISABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
     s->var_values[VAR_POS] = frame->pkt_pos == -1 ?
         NAN : frame->pkt_pos;
+FF_ENABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
+#endif
     s->var_values[VAR_X] = av_expr_eval(s->x_pexpr, s->var_values, NULL);
     s->var_values[VAR_Y] = av_expr_eval(s->y_pexpr, s->var_values, NULL);
     /* It is necessary if x is expressed from y  */
@@ -280,8 +290,8 @@  static int filter_frame(AVFilterLink *link, AVFrame *frame)
         s->y &= ~((1 << s->vsub) - 1);
     }
 
-    av_log(ctx, AV_LOG_TRACE, "n:%d t:%f pos:%f x:%d y:%d x+w:%d y+h:%d\n",
-            (int)s->var_values[VAR_N], s->var_values[VAR_T], s->var_values[VAR_POS],
+    av_log(ctx, AV_LOG_TRACE, "n:%d t:%f x:%d y:%d x+w:%d y+h:%d\n",
+            (int)s->var_values[VAR_N], s->var_values[VAR_T],
             s->x, s->y, s->x+s->w, s->y+s->h);
 
     if (desc->flags & AV_PIX_FMT_FLAG_HWACCEL) {
diff --git a/libavfilter/vf_drawtext.c b/libavfilter/vf_drawtext.c
index 50012bb258..71ab851462 100644
--- a/libavfilter/vf_drawtext.c
+++ b/libavfilter/vf_drawtext.c
@@ -90,11 +90,15 @@  static const char *const var_names[] = {
     "x",
     "y",
     "pict_type",
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
     "pkt_pos",
+#endif
 #if FF_API_PKT_DURATION
     "pkt_duration",
 #endif
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
     "pkt_size",
+#endif
     "duration",
     NULL
 };
@@ -133,11 +137,15 @@  enum var_name {
     VAR_X,
     VAR_Y,
     VAR_PICT_TYPE,
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
     VAR_PKT_POS,
+#endif
 #if FF_API_PKT_DURATION
     VAR_PKT_DURATION,
 #endif
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
     VAR_PKT_SIZE,
+#endif
     VAR_DURATION,
     VAR_VARS_NB
 };
@@ -1654,7 +1662,12 @@  static int filter_frame(AVFilterLink *inlink, AVFrame *frame)
         NAN : frame->pts * av_q2d(inlink->time_base);
 
     s->var_values[VAR_PICT_TYPE] = frame->pict_type;
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
+FF_DISABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
     s->var_values[VAR_PKT_POS] = frame->pkt_pos;
+    s->var_values[VAR_PKT_SIZE] = frame->pkt_size;
+FF_ENABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
+#endif
 #if FF_API_PKT_DURATION
 FF_DISABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
     s->var_values[VAR_PKT_DURATION] = frame->pkt_duration * av_q2d(inlink->time_base);
@@ -1665,7 +1678,6 @@  FF_DISABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
 FF_ENABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
 #endif
     s->var_values[VAR_DURATION] = frame->duration * av_q2d(inlink->time_base);
-    s->var_values[VAR_PKT_SIZE] = frame->pkt_size;
 
     s->metadata = frame->metadata;
 
diff --git a/libavfilter/vf_eq.c b/libavfilter/vf_eq.c
index 46636dd29d..7955bf717e 100644
--- a/libavfilter/vf_eq.c
+++ b/libavfilter/vf_eq.c
@@ -221,7 +221,6 @@  static int filter_frame(AVFilterLink *inlink, AVFrame *in)
     AVFilterLink *outlink = inlink->dst->outputs[0];
     EQContext *eq = ctx->priv;
     AVFrame *out;
-    int64_t pos = in->pkt_pos;
     const AVPixFmtDescriptor *desc;
     int i;
 
@@ -235,7 +234,14 @@  static int filter_frame(AVFilterLink *inlink, AVFrame *in)
     desc = av_pix_fmt_desc_get(inlink->format);
 
     eq->var_values[VAR_N]   = inlink->frame_count_out;
-    eq->var_values[VAR_POS] = pos == -1 ? NAN : pos;
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
+FF_DISABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
+    {
+        int64_t pos = in->pkt_pos;
+        eq->var_values[VAR_POS] = pos == -1 ? NAN : pos;
+    }
+FF_ENABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
+#endif
     eq->var_values[VAR_T]   = TS2T(in->pts, inlink->time_base);
 
     if (eq->eval_mode == EVAL_MODE_FRAME) {
diff --git a/libavfilter/vf_eq.h b/libavfilter/vf_eq.h
index fc8d4a711a..50850ea42c 100644
--- a/libavfilter/vf_eq.h
+++ b/libavfilter/vf_eq.h
@@ -30,7 +30,9 @@ 
 
 static const char *const var_names[] = {
     "n",   // frame count
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
     "pos", // frame position
+#endif
     "r",   // frame rate
     "t",   // timestamp expressed in seconds
     NULL
@@ -38,7 +40,9 @@  static const char *const var_names[] = {
 
 enum var_name {
     VAR_N,
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
     VAR_POS,
+#endif
     VAR_R,
     VAR_T,
     VAR_NB
diff --git a/libavfilter/vf_overlay.c b/libavfilter/vf_overlay.c
index e201e07c15..36c04ac21b 100644
--- a/libavfilter/vf_overlay.c
+++ b/libavfilter/vf_overlay.c
@@ -55,7 +55,9 @@  static const char *const var_names[] = {
     "x",
     "y",
     "n",            ///< number of frame
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
     "pos",          ///< position in the file
+#endif
     "t",            ///< timestamp expressed in seconds
     NULL
 };
@@ -290,7 +292,9 @@  static int config_input_overlay(AVFilterLink *inlink)
     s->var_values[VAR_Y]     = NAN;
     s->var_values[VAR_N]     = 0;
     s->var_values[VAR_T]     = NAN;
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
     s->var_values[VAR_POS]   = NAN;
+#endif
 
     if ((ret = set_expr(&s->x_pexpr,      s->x_expr,      "x",      ctx)) < 0 ||
         (ret = set_expr(&s->y_pexpr,      s->y_expr,      "y",      ctx)) < 0)
@@ -1007,12 +1011,18 @@  static int do_blend(FFFrameSync *fs)
         return ff_filter_frame(ctx->outputs[0], mainpic);
 
     if (s->eval_mode == EVAL_MODE_FRAME) {
-        int64_t pos = mainpic->pkt_pos;
 
         s->var_values[VAR_N] = inlink->frame_count_out;
         s->var_values[VAR_T] = mainpic->pts == AV_NOPTS_VALUE ?
             NAN : mainpic->pts * av_q2d(inlink->time_base);
-        s->var_values[VAR_POS] = pos == -1 ? NAN : pos;
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
+FF_DISABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
+        {
+            int64_t pos = mainpic->pkt_pos;
+            s->var_values[VAR_POS] = pos == -1 ? NAN : pos;
+        }
+FF_ENABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
+#endif
 
         s->var_values[VAR_OVERLAY_W] = s->var_values[VAR_OW] = second->width;
         s->var_values[VAR_OVERLAY_H] = s->var_values[VAR_OH] = second->height;
@@ -1020,8 +1030,8 @@  static int do_blend(FFFrameSync *fs)
         s->var_values[VAR_MAIN_H   ] = s->var_values[VAR_MH] = mainpic->height;
 
         eval_expr(ctx);
-        av_log(ctx, AV_LOG_DEBUG, "n:%f t:%f pos:%f x:%f xi:%d y:%f yi:%d\n",
-               s->var_values[VAR_N], s->var_values[VAR_T], s->var_values[VAR_POS],
+        av_log(ctx, AV_LOG_DEBUG, "n:%f t:%f x:%f xi:%d y:%f yi:%d\n",
+               s->var_values[VAR_N], s->var_values[VAR_T],
                s->var_values[VAR_X], s->x,
                s->var_values[VAR_Y], s->y);
     }
diff --git a/libavfilter/vf_overlay.h b/libavfilter/vf_overlay.h
index 30a1a7371c..7e65095a06 100644
--- a/libavfilter/vf_overlay.h
+++ b/libavfilter/vf_overlay.h
@@ -34,7 +34,9 @@  enum var_name {
     VAR_X,
     VAR_Y,
     VAR_N,
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
     VAR_POS,
+#endif
     VAR_T,
     VAR_VARS_NB
 };
diff --git a/libavfilter/vf_overlay_cuda.c b/libavfilter/vf_overlay_cuda.c
index b2cbb9c625..e9455ffcff 100644
--- a/libavfilter/vf_overlay_cuda.c
+++ b/libavfilter/vf_overlay_cuda.c
@@ -68,7 +68,9 @@  enum var_name {
     VAR_X,
     VAR_Y,
     VAR_N,
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
     VAR_POS,
+#endif
     VAR_T,
     VAR_VARS_NB
 };
@@ -87,7 +89,9 @@  static const char *const var_names[] = {
     "x",
     "y",
     "n",            ///< number of frame
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
     "pos",          ///< position in the file
+#endif
     "t",            ///< timestamp expressed in seconds
     NULL
 };
@@ -238,8 +242,6 @@  static int overlay_cuda_blend(FFFrameSync *fs)
 
     AVFrame *input_main, *input_overlay;
 
-    int pos = 0;
-
     ctx->cu_ctx = cuda_ctx;
 
     // read main and overlay frames from inputs
@@ -268,11 +270,19 @@  static int overlay_cuda_blend(FFFrameSync *fs)
     }
 
     if (ctx->eval_mode == EVAL_MODE_FRAME) {
-        pos = input_main->pkt_pos;
         ctx->var_values[VAR_N] = inlink->frame_count_out;
         ctx->var_values[VAR_T] = input_main->pts == AV_NOPTS_VALUE ?
             NAN : input_main->pts * av_q2d(inlink->time_base);
-        ctx->var_values[VAR_POS] = pos == -1 ? NAN : pos;
+
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
+FF_DISABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
+        {
+            int64_t pos = input_main->pkt_pos;
+            ctx->var_values[VAR_POS] = pos == -1 ? NAN : pos;
+        }
+FF_ENABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
+#endif
+
         ctx->var_values[VAR_OVERLAY_W] = ctx->var_values[VAR_OW] = input_overlay->width;
         ctx->var_values[VAR_OVERLAY_H] = ctx->var_values[VAR_OH] = input_overlay->height;
         ctx->var_values[VAR_MAIN_W   ] = ctx->var_values[VAR_MW] = input_main->width;
@@ -280,8 +290,8 @@  static int overlay_cuda_blend(FFFrameSync *fs)
 
         eval_expr(avctx);
 
-        av_log(avctx, AV_LOG_DEBUG, "n:%f t:%f pos:%f x:%f xi:%d y:%f yi:%d\n",
-               ctx->var_values[VAR_N], ctx->var_values[VAR_T], ctx->var_values[VAR_POS],
+        av_log(avctx, AV_LOG_DEBUG, "n:%f t:%f x:%f xi:%d y:%f yi:%d\n",
+               ctx->var_values[VAR_N], ctx->var_values[VAR_T],
                ctx->var_values[VAR_X], ctx->x_position,
                ctx->var_values[VAR_Y], ctx->y_position);
     }
@@ -355,7 +365,9 @@  static int config_input_overlay(AVFilterLink *inlink)
     s->var_values[VAR_Y]   = NAN;
     s->var_values[VAR_N]   = 0;
     s->var_values[VAR_T]   = NAN;
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
     s->var_values[VAR_POS] = NAN;
+#endif
 
     if ((ret = set_expr(&s->x_pexpr, s->x_expr, "x", ctx)) < 0 ||
         (ret = set_expr(&s->y_pexpr, s->y_expr, "y", ctx)) < 0)
diff --git a/libavfilter/vf_scale.c b/libavfilter/vf_scale.c
index 85047e3524..6b82763596 100644
--- a/libavfilter/vf_scale.c
+++ b/libavfilter/vf_scale.c
@@ -56,7 +56,9 @@  static const char *const var_names[] = {
     "ovsub",
     "n",
     "t",
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
     "pos",
+#endif
     "main_w",
     "main_h",
     "main_a",
@@ -84,7 +86,9 @@  enum var_name {
     VAR_OVSUB,
     VAR_N,
     VAR_T,
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
     VAR_POS,
+#endif
     VAR_S2R_MAIN_W,
     VAR_S2R_MAIN_H,
     VAR_S2R_MAIN_A,
@@ -205,7 +209,9 @@  static int check_exprs(AVFilterContext *ctx)
     if (scale->eval_mode == EVAL_MODE_INIT &&
         (vars_w[VAR_N]            || vars_h[VAR_N]           ||
          vars_w[VAR_T]            || vars_h[VAR_T]           ||
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
          vars_w[VAR_POS]          || vars_h[VAR_POS]         ||
+#endif
          vars_w[VAR_S2R_MAIN_N]   || vars_h[VAR_S2R_MAIN_N]  ||
          vars_w[VAR_S2R_MAIN_T]   || vars_h[VAR_S2R_MAIN_T]  ||
          vars_w[VAR_S2R_MAIN_POS] || vars_h[VAR_S2R_MAIN_POS]) ) {
@@ -738,8 +744,16 @@  static int scale_frame(AVFilterLink *link, AVFrame *in, AVFrame **frame_out)
         if (scale->eval_mode == EVAL_MODE_FRAME &&
             !frame_changed &&
             ctx->filter != &ff_vf_scale2ref &&
-            !(vars_w[VAR_N] || vars_w[VAR_T] || vars_w[VAR_POS]) &&
-            !(vars_h[VAR_N] || vars_h[VAR_T] || vars_h[VAR_POS]) &&
+            !(vars_w[VAR_N] || vars_w[VAR_T]
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
+              || vars_w[VAR_POS]
+#endif
+              ) &&
+            !(vars_h[VAR_N] || vars_h[VAR_T]
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
+              || vars_h[VAR_POS]
+#endif
+              ) &&
             scale->w && scale->h)
             goto scale;
 
@@ -761,11 +775,19 @@  static int scale_frame(AVFilterLink *link, AVFrame *in, AVFrame **frame_out)
         if (ctx->filter == &ff_vf_scale2ref) {
             scale->var_values[VAR_S2R_MAIN_N] = link->frame_count_out;
             scale->var_values[VAR_S2R_MAIN_T] = TS2T(in->pts, link->time_base);
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
+FF_DISABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
             scale->var_values[VAR_S2R_MAIN_POS] = in->pkt_pos == -1 ? NAN : in->pkt_pos;
+FF_ENABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
+#endif
         } else {
             scale->var_values[VAR_N] = link->frame_count_out;
             scale->var_values[VAR_T] = TS2T(in->pts, link->time_base);
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
+FF_DISABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
             scale->var_values[VAR_POS] = in->pkt_pos == -1 ? NAN : in->pkt_pos;
+FF_ENABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
+#endif
         }
 
         link->dst->inputs[0]->format = in->format;
@@ -915,7 +937,11 @@  static int filter_frame_ref(AVFilterLink *link, AVFrame *in)
     if (scale->eval_mode == EVAL_MODE_FRAME) {
         scale->var_values[VAR_N] = link->frame_count_out;
         scale->var_values[VAR_T] = TS2T(in->pts, link->time_base);
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
+FF_DISABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
         scale->var_values[VAR_POS] = in->pkt_pos == -1 ? NAN : in->pkt_pos;
+FF_ENABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
+#endif
     }
 
     return ff_filter_frame(outlink, in);
diff --git a/libavfilter/vf_scale_npp.c b/libavfilter/vf_scale_npp.c
index 6ce82e5302..3cfead82bf 100644
--- a/libavfilter/vf_scale_npp.c
+++ b/libavfilter/vf_scale_npp.c
@@ -84,7 +84,9 @@  static const char *const var_names[] = {
     "dar",
     "n",
     "t",
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
     "pos",
+#endif
     "main_w",
     "main_h",
     "main_a",
@@ -92,7 +94,9 @@  static const char *const var_names[] = {
     "main_dar", "mdar",
     "main_n",
     "main_t",
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
     "main_pos",
+#endif
     NULL
 };
 
@@ -106,7 +110,9 @@  enum var_name {
     VAR_DAR,
     VAR_N,
     VAR_T,
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
     VAR_POS,
+#endif
     VAR_S2R_MAIN_W,
     VAR_S2R_MAIN_H,
     VAR_S2R_MAIN_A,
@@ -114,7 +120,9 @@  enum var_name {
     VAR_S2R_MAIN_DAR, VAR_S2R_MDAR,
     VAR_S2R_MAIN_N,
     VAR_S2R_MAIN_T,
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
     VAR_S2R_MAIN_POS,
+#endif
     VARS_NB
 };
 
@@ -204,8 +212,11 @@  static int check_exprs(AVFilterContext* ctx)
          vars_w[VAR_S2R_MAIN_DAR] || vars_h[VAR_S2R_MAIN_DAR] ||
          vars_w[VAR_S2R_MDAR]     || vars_h[VAR_S2R_MDAR]     ||
          vars_w[VAR_S2R_MAIN_N]   || vars_h[VAR_S2R_MAIN_N]   ||
-         vars_w[VAR_S2R_MAIN_T]   || vars_h[VAR_S2R_MAIN_T]   ||
-         vars_w[VAR_S2R_MAIN_POS] || vars_h[VAR_S2R_MAIN_POS])) {
+         vars_w[VAR_S2R_MAIN_T]   || vars_h[VAR_S2R_MAIN_T]
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
+         || vars_w[VAR_S2R_MAIN_POS] || vars_h[VAR_S2R_MAIN_POS]
+#endif
+         )) {
         av_log(ctx, AV_LOG_ERROR, "Expressions with scale2ref_npp variables are not valid in scale_npp filter.\n");
         return AVERROR(EINVAL);
     }
@@ -213,11 +224,16 @@  static int check_exprs(AVFilterContext* ctx)
     if (scale->eval_mode == EVAL_MODE_INIT &&
         (vars_w[VAR_N]            || vars_h[VAR_N]           ||
          vars_w[VAR_T]            || vars_h[VAR_T]           ||
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
          vars_w[VAR_POS]          || vars_h[VAR_POS]         ||
+#endif
          vars_w[VAR_S2R_MAIN_N]   || vars_h[VAR_S2R_MAIN_N]  ||
-         vars_w[VAR_S2R_MAIN_T]   || vars_h[VAR_S2R_MAIN_T]  ||
-         vars_w[VAR_S2R_MAIN_POS] || vars_h[VAR_S2R_MAIN_POS]) ) {
-        av_log(ctx, AV_LOG_ERROR, "Expressions with frame variables 'n', 't', 'pos' are not valid in init eval_mode.\n");
+         vars_w[VAR_S2R_MAIN_T]   || vars_h[VAR_S2R_MAIN_T]
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
+         || vars_w[VAR_S2R_MAIN_POS] || vars_h[VAR_S2R_MAIN_POS]
+#endif
+         ) ) {
+        av_log(ctx, AV_LOG_ERROR, "Expressions with frame variables 'n', 't', are not valid in init eval_mode.\n");
         return AVERROR(EINVAL);
     }
 
@@ -790,9 +806,16 @@  static int nppscale_scale(AVFilterLink *link, AVFrame *out, AVFrame *in)
         av_expr_count_vars(s->h_pexpr, vars_h, VARS_NB);
 
         if (s->eval_mode == EVAL_MODE_FRAME && !frame_changed && ctx->filter != &ff_vf_scale2ref_npp &&
-            !(vars_w[VAR_N] || vars_w[VAR_T] || vars_w[VAR_POS]) &&
-            !(vars_h[VAR_N] || vars_h[VAR_T] || vars_h[VAR_POS]) &&
-            s->w && s->h)
+            !(vars_w[VAR_N] || vars_w[VAR_T]
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
+              || vars_w[VAR_POS]
+#endif
+              ) &&
+            !(vars_h[VAR_N] || vars_h[VAR_T]
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
+              || vars_h[VAR_POS]
+#endif
+              ) && s->w && s->h)
             goto scale;
 
         if (s->eval_mode == EVAL_MODE_INIT) {
@@ -813,11 +836,19 @@  static int nppscale_scale(AVFilterLink *link, AVFrame *out, AVFrame *in)
         if (ctx->filter == &ff_vf_scale2ref_npp) {
             s->var_values[VAR_S2R_MAIN_N] = link->frame_count_out;
             s->var_values[VAR_S2R_MAIN_T] = TS2T(in->pts, link->time_base);
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
+FF_DISABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
             s->var_values[VAR_S2R_MAIN_POS] = in->pkt_pos == -1 ? NAN : in->pkt_pos;
+FF_ENABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
+#endif
         } else {
             s->var_values[VAR_N] = link->frame_count_out;
             s->var_values[VAR_T] = TS2T(in->pts, link->time_base);
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
+FF_DISABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
             s->var_values[VAR_POS] = in->pkt_pos == -1 ? NAN : in->pkt_pos;
+FF_ENABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
+#endif
         }
 
         link->format = in->format;
@@ -932,7 +963,11 @@  static int nppscale_filter_frame_ref(AVFilterLink *link, AVFrame *in)
     if (scale->eval_mode == EVAL_MODE_FRAME) {
         scale->var_values[VAR_N] = link->frame_count_out;
         scale->var_values[VAR_T] = TS2T(in->pts, link->time_base);
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
+FF_DISABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
         scale->var_values[VAR_POS] = in->pkt_pos == -1 ? NAN : in->pkt_pos;
+FF_ENABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
+#endif
     }
 
     return ff_filter_frame(outlink, in);
diff --git a/libavfilter/vf_showinfo.c b/libavfilter/vf_showinfo.c
index e55625b338..a46c10f765 100644
--- a/libavfilter/vf_showinfo.c
+++ b/libavfilter/vf_showinfo.c
@@ -713,12 +713,11 @@  static int filter_frame(AVFilterLink *inlink, AVFrame *frame)
 
     av_log(ctx, AV_LOG_INFO,
            "n:%4"PRId64" pts:%7s pts_time:%-7s duration:%7"PRId64
-           " duration_time:%-7s pos:%9"PRId64" "
+           " duration_time:%-7s "
            "fmt:%s sar:%d/%d s:%dx%d i:%c iskey:%d type:%c ",
            inlink->frame_count_out,
            av_ts2str(frame->pts), av_ts2timestr(frame->pts, &inlink->time_base),
            frame->duration, av_ts2timestr(frame->duration, &inlink->time_base),
-           frame->pkt_pos,
            desc->name,
            frame->sample_aspect_ratio.num, frame->sample_aspect_ratio.den,
            frame->width, frame->height,
diff --git a/libavfilter/vf_swaprect.c b/libavfilter/vf_swaprect.c
index b76e3bb99d..fad650151f 100644
--- a/libavfilter/vf_swaprect.c
+++ b/libavfilter/vf_swaprect.c
@@ -64,8 +64,16 @@  static int query_formats(AVFilterContext *ctx)
     return ff_set_common_formats(ctx, ff_formats_pixdesc_filter(0, reject_flags));
 }
 
-static const char *const var_names[] = {   "w",   "h",   "a",   "n",   "t",   "pos",   "sar",   "dar",        NULL };
-enum                                   { VAR_W, VAR_H, VAR_A, VAR_N, VAR_T, VAR_POS, VAR_SAR, VAR_DAR, VAR_VARS_NB };
+static const char *const var_names[] = {   "w",   "h",   "a",   "n",   "t",
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
+                                                                           "pos",
+#endif
+                                                                                      "sar",   "dar",        NULL };
+enum                                   { VAR_W, VAR_H, VAR_A, VAR_N, VAR_T,
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
+                                                                           VAR_POS,
+#endif
+                                                                                    VAR_SAR, VAR_DAR, VAR_VARS_NB };
 
 static int filter_frame(AVFilterLink *inlink, AVFrame *in)
 {
@@ -90,7 +98,11 @@  static int filter_frame(AVFilterLink *inlink, AVFrame *in)
     var_values[VAR_DAR] = var_values[VAR_A] * var_values[VAR_SAR];
     var_values[VAR_N]   = inlink->frame_count_out;
     var_values[VAR_T]   = in->pts == AV_NOPTS_VALUE ? NAN : in->pts * av_q2d(inlink->time_base);
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
+FF_DISABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
     var_values[VAR_POS] = in->pkt_pos == -1 ? NAN : in->pkt_pos;
+FF_ENABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
+#endif
 
     ret = av_expr_parse_and_eval(&dw, s->w,
                                  var_names, &var_values[0],
diff --git a/libavutil/frame.c b/libavutil/frame.c
index 9545477acc..5c9afb0d03 100644
--- a/libavutil/frame.c
+++ b/libavutil/frame.c
@@ -48,8 +48,12 @@  FF_DISABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
     frame->pkt_duration        = 0;
 FF_ENABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
 #endif
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
+FF_DISABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
     frame->pkt_pos             = -1;
     frame->pkt_size            = -1;
+FF_ENABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
+#endif
     frame->time_base           = (AVRational){ 0, 1 };
     frame->key_frame           = 1;
     frame->sample_aspect_ratio = (AVRational){ 0, 1 };
@@ -279,8 +283,12 @@  static int frame_copy_props(AVFrame *dst, const AVFrame *src, int force_copy)
     dst->sample_rate            = src->sample_rate;
     dst->opaque                 = src->opaque;
     dst->pkt_dts                = src->pkt_dts;
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
+FF_DISABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
     dst->pkt_pos                = src->pkt_pos;
     dst->pkt_size               = src->pkt_size;
+FF_ENABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
+#endif
 #if FF_API_PKT_DURATION
 FF_DISABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
     dst->pkt_duration           = src->pkt_duration;
diff --git a/libavutil/frame.h b/libavutil/frame.h
index 2580269549..328d3de45b 100644
--- a/libavutil/frame.h
+++ b/libavutil/frame.h
@@ -611,12 +611,17 @@  typedef struct AVFrame {
      */
     int64_t best_effort_timestamp;
 
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
     /**
      * reordered pos from the last AVPacket that has been input into the decoder
      * - encoding: unused
      * - decoding: Read by user.
+     * @deprecated use AV_CODEC_FLAG_COPY_OPAQUE to pass through arbitrary user
+     *             data from packets to frames
      */
+    attribute_deprecated
     int64_t pkt_pos;
+#endif
 
 #if FF_API_PKT_DURATION
     /**
@@ -662,14 +667,19 @@  typedef struct AVFrame {
     int channels;
 #endif
 
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
     /**
      * size of the corresponding packet containing the compressed
      * frame.
      * It is set to a negative value if unknown.
      * - encoding: unused
      * - decoding: set by libavcodec, read by user.
+     * @deprecated use AV_CODEC_FLAG_COPY_OPAQUE to pass through arbitrary user
+     *             data from packets to frames
      */
+    attribute_deprecated
     int pkt_size;
+#endif
 
     /**
      * For hwaccel-format frames, this should be a reference to the
diff --git a/libavutil/version.h b/libavutil/version.h
index 900b798971..17c25a93fc 100644
--- a/libavutil/version.h
+++ b/libavutil/version.h
@@ -113,6 +113,7 @@ 
 #define FF_API_PKT_DURATION             (LIBAVUTIL_VERSION_MAJOR < 59)
 #define FF_API_REORDERED_OPAQUE         (LIBAVUTIL_VERSION_MAJOR < 59)
 #define FF_API_FRAME_PICTURE_NUMBER     (LIBAVUTIL_VERSION_MAJOR < 59)
+#define FF_API_FRAME_PKT                (LIBAVUTIL_VERSION_MAJOR < 59)
 
 /**
  * @}