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On Sun, Mar 03, 2024 at 05:36:41PM +0100, Stefano Sabatini wrote: > On date Tuesday 2024-02-27 20:01:26 +0100, Michael Niedermayer wrote: > > This explains how to request refunds and what can be funded by SPI > > > > Co-Author: Stefano Sabatini <stefasab@gmail.com> > > --- > > Makefile | 2 +- > > src/spi | 98 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > src/spi_js | 0 > > src/spi_title | 1 + > > src/template_head2 | 1 + > > 5 files changed, 101 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-) > > create mode 100644 src/spi > > create mode 100644 src/spi_js > > create mode 100644 src/spi_title > > > > diff --git a/Makefile b/Makefile > > index 0686e44..dd681e4 100644 > > --- a/Makefile > > +++ b/Makefile > > @@ -1,7 +1,7 @@ > > # ffmpeg.org HTML generation from source files > > > > SRCS = about bugreports consulting contact donations documentation download \ > > - olddownload index legal shame security archive > > + olddownload index legal shame security spi archive > > > > HTML_TARGETS = $(addsuffix .html,$(addprefix htdocs/,$(SRCS))) > > > > diff --git a/src/spi b/src/spi > > new file mode 100644 > > index 0000000..8fffc7f > > --- /dev/null > > +++ b/src/spi > > @@ -0,0 +1,98 @@ > > +<p> > > +SPI (Software in the Public Interest) is a non-profit corporation > > +registered in the state of New York founded to act as a fiscal sponsor > > +for organizations that develop open source software and hardware. For > > +details check here: > > +<a href="https://www.spi-inc.org/">www.spi-inc.org</a> > > +</p> > > + > > +<p> > > +FFmpeg is an SPI associated project and donations can be collected and > > +handled by SPI on behalf of FFmpeg. For details about the association > > +check here: > > +<a href="https://www.spi-inc.org/projects/ffmpeg/">www.spi-inc.org/projects/ffmpeg/</a> > > +</p> > > + > > +<br> > > + > > +<h4>How to request refunds from SPI:</h4> > > +<p> > > +Send a mail to ffmpeg-devel with the [REFUND-REQUEST] tag and a short > > +description of the refund topic in the subject. > > +</p> > > + > > +<p> > > +In the mail, you also need to provide the amount to be refunded, with > > +a short description of how the money was spent. > > +</p> > > + > > +<p> > > +There is no need and is not recommeded to send receipts when sending > > +the refund request on the ffmpeg-devel mailing-list, but they are > > +usually needed later when the request is approved and the refund > > +request is sent to SPI: > > +<a href="https://www.spi-inc.org/treasurer/reimbursement-form/">www.spi-inc.org/treasurer/reimbursement-form</a> > > +</p> > > + > > +<br> > > +<h4>What can be payed by SPI:</h4> > > +<p> > > > +FFmpeg money collected at SPI can be used for any purpose which is in line with > > +501(c)3 nonprofit rules, and within our mission (Free & OSS software). > > Free & Open Source software? > > > +</p> > > + > > +<p> > > +In practice we frequently payed for travel and hardware. > > +For other refund expenses or sponsorships, it is recommended to > > > +discuss them beforehand on ffmpeg-devel. If there is a community > > +agreement on their approval, the current FFmpeg liaison will followup > > +to get an approval on the SPI side. > > +</p> > > + > > + > > +<br> > > +<h4>Funding active development by SPI:</h4> > > +<p> > > +The texts below have been taken from multiple replies FFmpeg has > > +received from SPI, they have been edited > > +so that "I" was replaced by "SPI" in some cases.) > > +</p> > > +<p> > > +Paying for development *does* require substantial > > +additional paperwork, but it is not prohibited. > > +</p> > > +<p> > > +Several SPI projects pay contractors for development > > +efforts. SPI needs a contract in place which describes the work to be > > +done. There are also various things SPI needs to check about the potential > > +contractors(e.g. are they a US person or not, as with GSoC mentor payments; > > contractors_( > > > +are they really a contractor and not a employee). > > +</p> > > +<p> > > +SPI can't deal with employment at the moment because that involves a > > +lot of work, like health insurance, tax withholding, etc. Contractors > > +are easier because they have to take care of that themselves; Whether > > +someone is a contractor vs employee depends on various factors (that > > +of course are different in every country) and can be disputed (see > > +e.g. the debate about whether Uber drivers are employees); SPI has a > > +questionnaire about their circumstances. > > +</p> > > +<p> > > +Unfortunately, there's no one-size-fits all when dealing with > > one-size-fits-all ? > > > +contractors, especially without knowing the contributor's country. > > +</p> > > > +<p> > > +SPI does have some contract templates which depends on the contractors > > +country. In case of US, Australia, France and a couple others > > +countries, SPI can easily provide them, otherwise SPI would need to > > +ask their attorney to draft one, which would take some time > > add missing "." > > > +</p> > > +<p> > > +Also, SPI has two models, MSA (which transfers ownership) and CSA (which > > +grants a license instead). SPI usually sends the MSA (it's better for most > > +purposes), but for development purposes, some projects prefer that the > > +contractor retains ownership rights. > > Probably it's good to expand MSA (Master Service Agreements) and CSA > (Continued Service Agreements) in their first occurrence. > > > +</p> > > + > > +<br><br> > > + > > diff --git a/src/spi_js b/src/spi_js > > new file mode 100644 > > index 0000000..e69de29 > > diff --git a/src/spi_title b/src/spi_title > > new file mode 100644 > > index 0000000..389532a > > --- /dev/null > > +++ b/src/spi_title > > @@ -0,0 +1 @@ > > +SPI > > diff --git a/src/template_head2 b/src/template_head2 > > index 7ba634b..79d2f51 100644 > > --- a/src/template_head2 > > +++ b/src/template_head2 > > @@ -37,6 +37,7 @@ > > <li><a href="developer.html#Contributing">Contribute</a></li> > > <li><a href="http://fate.ffmpeg.org">FATE</a></li> > > <li><a href="http://coverage.ffmpeg.org">Code Coverage</a></li> > > + <li><a href="spi.html">Funding through SPI</a></li> > > Still looks good to me with the minor adjustments, thanks. will apply thx [...]
Mar 3, 2024, 22:08 by michael@niedermayer.cc: > On Sun, Mar 03, 2024 at 05:36:41PM +0100, Stefano Sabatini wrote: > >> On date Tuesday 2024-02-27 20:01:26 +0100, Michael Niedermayer wrote: >> > This explains how to request refunds and what can be funded by SPI >> > >> > Co-Author: Stefano Sabatini <stefasab@gmail.com> >> > --- >> > Makefile | 2 +- >> > src/spi | 98 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >> > src/spi_js | 0 >> > src/spi_title | 1 + >> > src/template_head2 | 1 + >> > 5 files changed, 101 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-) >> > create mode 100644 src/spi >> > create mode 100644 src/spi_js >> > create mode 100644 src/spi_title >> > >> > diff --git a/Makefile b/Makefile >> > index 0686e44..dd681e4 100644 >> > --- a/Makefile >> > +++ b/Makefile >> > @@ -1,7 +1,7 @@ >> > # ffmpeg.org HTML generation from source files >> > >> > SRCS = about bugreports consulting contact donations documentation download \ >> > - olddownload index legal shame security archive >> > + olddownload index legal shame security spi archive >> > >> > HTML_TARGETS = $(addsuffix .html,$(addprefix htdocs/,$(SRCS))) >> > >> > diff --git a/src/spi b/src/spi >> > new file mode 100644 >> > index 0000000..8fffc7f >> > --- /dev/null >> > +++ b/src/spi >> > @@ -0,0 +1,98 @@ >> > +<p> >> > +SPI (Software in the Public Interest) is a non-profit corporation >> > +registered in the state of New York founded to act as a fiscal sponsor >> > +for organizations that develop open source software and hardware. For >> > +details check here: >> > +<a href="https://www.spi-inc.org/">www.spi-inc.org</a> >> > +</p> >> > + >> > +<p> >> > +FFmpeg is an SPI associated project and donations can be collected and >> > +handled by SPI on behalf of FFmpeg. For details about the association >> > +check here: >> > +<a href="https://www.spi-inc.org/projects/ffmpeg/">www.spi-inc.org/projects/ffmpeg/</a> >> > +</p> >> > + >> > +<br> >> > + >> > +<h4>How to request refunds from SPI:</h4> >> > +<p> >> > +Send a mail to ffmpeg-devel with the [REFUND-REQUEST] tag and a short >> > +description of the refund topic in the subject. >> > +</p> >> > + >> > +<p> >> > +In the mail, you also need to provide the amount to be refunded, with >> > +a short description of how the money was spent. >> > +</p> >> > + >> > +<p> >> > +There is no need and is not recommeded to send receipts when sending >> > +the refund request on the ffmpeg-devel mailing-list, but they are >> > +usually needed later when the request is approved and the refund >> > +request is sent to SPI: >> > +<a href="https://www.spi-inc.org/treasurer/reimbursement-form/">www.spi-inc.org/treasurer/reimbursement-form</a> >> > +</p> >> > + >> > +<br> >> > +<h4>What can be payed by SPI:</h4> >> > +<p> >> >> > +FFmpeg money collected at SPI can be used for any purpose which is in line with >> > +501(c)3 nonprofit rules, and within our mission (Free & OSS software). >> >> Free & Open Source software? >> >> > +</p> >> > + >> > +<p> >> > +In practice we frequently payed for travel and hardware. >> > +For other refund expenses or sponsorships, it is recommended to >> >> > +discuss them beforehand on ffmpeg-devel. If there is a community >> > +agreement on their approval, the current FFmpeg liaison will followup >> > +to get an approval on the SPI side. >> > +</p> >> > + >> > + >> > +<br> >> > +<h4>Funding active development by SPI:</h4> >> > +<p> >> > +The texts below have been taken from multiple replies FFmpeg has >> > +received from SPI, they have been edited >> > +so that "I" was replaced by "SPI" in some cases.) >> > +</p> >> > +<p> >> > +Paying for development *does* require substantial >> > +additional paperwork, but it is not prohibited. >> > +</p> >> > +<p> >> > +Several SPI projects pay contractors for development >> > +efforts. SPI needs a contract in place which describes the work to be >> > +done. There are also various things SPI needs to check about the potential >> > +contractors(e.g. are they a US person or not, as with GSoC mentor payments; >> >> contractors_( >> >> > +are they really a contractor and not a employee). >> > +</p> >> > +<p> >> > +SPI can't deal with employment at the moment because that involves a >> > +lot of work, like health insurance, tax withholding, etc. Contractors >> > +are easier because they have to take care of that themselves; Whether >> > +someone is a contractor vs employee depends on various factors (that >> > +of course are different in every country) and can be disputed (see >> > +e.g. the debate about whether Uber drivers are employees); SPI has a >> > +questionnaire about their circumstances. >> > +</p> >> > +<p> >> > +Unfortunately, there's no one-size-fits all when dealing with >> >> one-size-fits-all ? >> >> > +contractors, especially without knowing the contributor's country. >> > +</p> >> >> > +<p> >> > +SPI does have some contract templates which depends on the contractors >> > +country. In case of US, Australia, France and a couple others >> > +countries, SPI can easily provide them, otherwise SPI would need to >> > +ask their attorney to draft one, which would take some time >> >> add missing "." >> >> > +</p> >> > +<p> >> > +Also, SPI has two models, MSA (which transfers ownership) and CSA (which >> > +grants a license instead). SPI usually sends the MSA (it's better for most >> > +purposes), but for development purposes, some projects prefer that the >> > +contractor retains ownership rights. >> >> Probably it's good to expand MSA (Master Service Agreements) and CSA >> (Continued Service Agreements) in their first occurrence. >> >> > +</p> >> > + >> > +<br><br> >> > + >> > diff --git a/src/spi_js b/src/spi_js >> > new file mode 100644 >> > index 0000000..e69de29 >> > diff --git a/src/spi_title b/src/spi_title >> > new file mode 100644 >> > index 0000000..389532a >> > --- /dev/null >> > +++ b/src/spi_title >> > @@ -0,0 +1 @@ >> > +SPI >> > diff --git a/src/template_head2 b/src/template_head2 >> > index 7ba634b..79d2f51 100644 >> > --- a/src/template_head2 >> > +++ b/src/template_head2 >> > @@ -37,6 +37,7 @@ >> > <li><a href="developer.html#Contributing">Contribute</a></li> >> > <li><a href="http://fate.ffmpeg.org">FATE</a></li> >> > <li><a href="http://coverage.ffmpeg.org">Code Coverage</a></li> >> > + <li><a href="spi.html">Funding through SPI</a></li> >> >> Still looks good to me with the minor adjustments, thanks. >> > > will apply > I think stuff like this should go to the website, not the git repo.
On Sun, Mar 03, 2024 at 10:29:59PM +0100, Lynne wrote: > Mar 3, 2024, 22:08 by michael@niedermayer.cc: > > > On Sun, Mar 03, 2024 at 05:36:41PM +0100, Stefano Sabatini wrote: > > > >> On date Tuesday 2024-02-27 20:01:26 +0100, Michael Niedermayer wrote: > >> > This explains how to request refunds and what can be funded by SPI > >> > > >> > Co-Author: Stefano Sabatini <stefasab@gmail.com> > >> > --- > >> > Makefile | 2 +- > >> > src/spi | 98 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > >> > src/spi_js | 0 > >> > src/spi_title | 1 + > >> > src/template_head2 | 1 + > >> > 5 files changed, 101 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-) > >> > create mode 100644 src/spi > >> > create mode 100644 src/spi_js > >> > create mode 100644 src/spi_title > >> > > >> > diff --git a/Makefile b/Makefile > >> > index 0686e44..dd681e4 100644 > >> > --- a/Makefile > >> > +++ b/Makefile > >> > @@ -1,7 +1,7 @@ > >> > # ffmpeg.org HTML generation from source files > >> > > >> > SRCS = about bugreports consulting contact donations documentation download \ > >> > - olddownload index legal shame security archive > >> > + olddownload index legal shame security spi archive > >> > > >> > HTML_TARGETS = $(addsuffix .html,$(addprefix htdocs/,$(SRCS))) > >> > > >> > diff --git a/src/spi b/src/spi > >> > new file mode 100644 > >> > index 0000000..8fffc7f > >> > --- /dev/null > >> > +++ b/src/spi > >> > @@ -0,0 +1,98 @@ > >> > +<p> > >> > +SPI (Software in the Public Interest) is a non-profit corporation > >> > +registered in the state of New York founded to act as a fiscal sponsor > >> > +for organizations that develop open source software and hardware. For > >> > +details check here: > >> > +<a href="https://www.spi-inc.org/">www.spi-inc.org</a> > >> > +</p> > >> > + > >> > +<p> > >> > +FFmpeg is an SPI associated project and donations can be collected and > >> > +handled by SPI on behalf of FFmpeg. For details about the association > >> > +check here: > >> > +<a href="https://www.spi-inc.org/projects/ffmpeg/">www.spi-inc.org/projects/ffmpeg/</a> > >> > +</p> > >> > + > >> > +<br> > >> > + > >> > +<h4>How to request refunds from SPI:</h4> > >> > +<p> > >> > +Send a mail to ffmpeg-devel with the [REFUND-REQUEST] tag and a short > >> > +description of the refund topic in the subject. > >> > +</p> > >> > + > >> > +<p> > >> > +In the mail, you also need to provide the amount to be refunded, with > >> > +a short description of how the money was spent. > >> > +</p> > >> > + > >> > +<p> > >> > +There is no need and is not recommeded to send receipts when sending > >> > +the refund request on the ffmpeg-devel mailing-list, but they are > >> > +usually needed later when the request is approved and the refund > >> > +request is sent to SPI: > >> > +<a href="https://www.spi-inc.org/treasurer/reimbursement-form/">www.spi-inc.org/treasurer/reimbursement-form</a> > >> > +</p> > >> > + > >> > +<br> > >> > +<h4>What can be payed by SPI:</h4> > >> > +<p> > >> > >> > +FFmpeg money collected at SPI can be used for any purpose which is in line with > >> > +501(c)3 nonprofit rules, and within our mission (Free & OSS software). > >> > >> Free & Open Source software? > >> > >> > +</p> > >> > + > >> > +<p> > >> > +In practice we frequently payed for travel and hardware. > >> > +For other refund expenses or sponsorships, it is recommended to > >> > >> > +discuss them beforehand on ffmpeg-devel. If there is a community > >> > +agreement on their approval, the current FFmpeg liaison will followup > >> > +to get an approval on the SPI side. > >> > +</p> > >> > + > >> > + > >> > +<br> > >> > +<h4>Funding active development by SPI:</h4> > >> > +<p> > >> > +The texts below have been taken from multiple replies FFmpeg has > >> > +received from SPI, they have been edited > >> > +so that "I" was replaced by "SPI" in some cases.) > >> > +</p> > >> > +<p> > >> > +Paying for development *does* require substantial > >> > +additional paperwork, but it is not prohibited. > >> > +</p> > >> > +<p> > >> > +Several SPI projects pay contractors for development > >> > +efforts. SPI needs a contract in place which describes the work to be > >> > +done. There are also various things SPI needs to check about the potential > >> > +contractors(e.g. are they a US person or not, as with GSoC mentor payments; > >> > >> contractors_( > >> > >> > +are they really a contractor and not a employee). > >> > +</p> > >> > +<p> > >> > +SPI can't deal with employment at the moment because that involves a > >> > +lot of work, like health insurance, tax withholding, etc. Contractors > >> > +are easier because they have to take care of that themselves; Whether > >> > +someone is a contractor vs employee depends on various factors (that > >> > +of course are different in every country) and can be disputed (see > >> > +e.g. the debate about whether Uber drivers are employees); SPI has a > >> > +questionnaire about their circumstances. > >> > +</p> > >> > +<p> > >> > +Unfortunately, there's no one-size-fits all when dealing with > >> > >> one-size-fits-all ? > >> > >> > +contractors, especially without knowing the contributor's country. > >> > +</p> > >> > >> > +<p> > >> > +SPI does have some contract templates which depends on the contractors > >> > +country. In case of US, Australia, France and a couple others > >> > +countries, SPI can easily provide them, otherwise SPI would need to > >> > +ask their attorney to draft one, which would take some time > >> > >> add missing "." > >> > >> > +</p> > >> > +<p> > >> > +Also, SPI has two models, MSA (which transfers ownership) and CSA (which > >> > +grants a license instead). SPI usually sends the MSA (it's better for most > >> > +purposes), but for development purposes, some projects prefer that the > >> > +contractor retains ownership rights. > >> > >> Probably it's good to expand MSA (Master Service Agreements) and CSA > >> (Continued Service Agreements) in their first occurrence. > >> > >> > +</p> > >> > + > >> > +<br><br> > >> > + > >> > diff --git a/src/spi_js b/src/spi_js > >> > new file mode 100644 > >> > index 0000000..e69de29 > >> > diff --git a/src/spi_title b/src/spi_title > >> > new file mode 100644 > >> > index 0000000..389532a > >> > --- /dev/null > >> > +++ b/src/spi_title > >> > @@ -0,0 +1 @@ > >> > +SPI > >> > diff --git a/src/template_head2 b/src/template_head2 > >> > index 7ba634b..79d2f51 100644 > >> > --- a/src/template_head2 > >> > +++ b/src/template_head2 > >> > @@ -37,6 +37,7 @@ > >> > <li><a href="developer.html#Contributing">Contribute</a></li> > >> > <li><a href="http://fate.ffmpeg.org">FATE</a></li> > >> > <li><a href="http://coverage.ffmpeg.org">Code Coverage</a></li> > >> > + <li><a href="spi.html">Funding through SPI</a></li> > >> > >> Still looks good to me with the minor adjustments, thanks. > >> > > > > will apply > > > > I think stuff like this should go to the website, not the git repo. its there now: https://www.ffmpeg.org/spi.html thx [...]
diff --git a/Makefile b/Makefile index 0686e44..dd681e4 100644 --- a/Makefile +++ b/Makefile @@ -1,7 +1,7 @@ # ffmpeg.org HTML generation from source files SRCS = about bugreports consulting contact donations documentation download \ - olddownload index legal shame security archive + olddownload index legal shame security spi archive HTML_TARGETS = $(addsuffix .html,$(addprefix htdocs/,$(SRCS))) diff --git a/src/spi b/src/spi new file mode 100644 index 0000000..8fffc7f --- /dev/null +++ b/src/spi @@ -0,0 +1,98 @@ +<p> +SPI (Software in the Public Interest) is a non-profit corporation +registered in the state of New York founded to act as a fiscal sponsor +for organizations that develop open source software and hardware. For +details check here: +<a href="https://www.spi-inc.org/">www.spi-inc.org</a> +</p> + +<p> +FFmpeg is an SPI associated project and donations can be collected and +handled by SPI on behalf of FFmpeg. For details about the association +check here: +<a href="https://www.spi-inc.org/projects/ffmpeg/">www.spi-inc.org/projects/ffmpeg/</a> +</p> + +<br> + +<h4>How to request refunds from SPI:</h4> +<p> +Send a mail to ffmpeg-devel with the [REFUND-REQUEST] tag and a short +description of the refund topic in the subject. +</p> + +<p> +In the mail, you also need to provide the amount to be refunded, with +a short description of how the money was spent. +</p> + +<p> +There is no need and is not recommeded to send receipts when sending +the refund request on the ffmpeg-devel mailing-list, but they are +usually needed later when the request is approved and the refund +request is sent to SPI: +<a href="https://www.spi-inc.org/treasurer/reimbursement-form/">www.spi-inc.org/treasurer/reimbursement-form</a> +</p> + +<br> +<h4>What can be payed by SPI:</h4> +<p> +FFmpeg money collected at SPI can be used for any purpose which is in line with +501(c)3 nonprofit rules, and within our mission (Free & OSS software). +</p> + +<p> +In practice we frequently payed for travel and hardware. +For other refund expenses or sponsorships, it is recommended to +discuss them beforehand on ffmpeg-devel. If there is a community +agreement on their approval, the current FFmpeg liaison will followup +to get an approval on the SPI side. +</p> + + +<br> +<h4>Funding active development by SPI:</h4> +<p> +The texts below have been taken from multiple replies FFmpeg has +received from SPI, they have been edited +so that "I" was replaced by "SPI" in some cases.) +</p> +<p> +Paying for development *does* require substantial +additional paperwork, but it is not prohibited. +</p> +<p> +Several SPI projects pay contractors for development +efforts. SPI needs a contract in place which describes the work to be +done. There are also various things SPI needs to check about the potential +contractors(e.g. are they a US person or not, as with GSoC mentor payments; +are they really a contractor and not a employee). +</p> +<p> +SPI can't deal with employment at the moment because that involves a +lot of work, like health insurance, tax withholding, etc. Contractors +are easier because they have to take care of that themselves; Whether +someone is a contractor vs employee depends on various factors (that +of course are different in every country) and can be disputed (see +e.g. the debate about whether Uber drivers are employees); SPI has a +questionnaire about their circumstances. +</p> +<p> +Unfortunately, there's no one-size-fits all when dealing with +contractors, especially without knowing the contributor's country. +</p> +<p> +SPI does have some contract templates which depends on the contractors +country. In case of US, Australia, France and a couple others +countries, SPI can easily provide them, otherwise SPI would need to +ask their attorney to draft one, which would take some time +</p> +<p> +Also, SPI has two models, MSA (which transfers ownership) and CSA (which +grants a license instead). SPI usually sends the MSA (it's better for most +purposes), but for development purposes, some projects prefer that the +contractor retains ownership rights. +</p> + +<br><br> + diff --git a/src/spi_js b/src/spi_js new file mode 100644 index 0000000..e69de29 diff --git a/src/spi_title b/src/spi_title new file mode 100644 index 0000000..389532a --- /dev/null +++ b/src/spi_title @@ -0,0 +1 @@ +SPI diff --git a/src/template_head2 b/src/template_head2 index 7ba634b..79d2f51 100644 --- a/src/template_head2 +++ b/src/template_head2 @@ -37,6 +37,7 @@ <li><a href="developer.html#Contributing">Contribute</a></li> <li><a href="http://fate.ffmpeg.org">FATE</a></li> <li><a href="http://coverage.ffmpeg.org">Code Coverage</a></li> + <li><a href="spi.html">Funding through SPI</a></li> </ul> </li> <li><a href="#">More</a>